Do racers want to pay to use transponders at EVERY race meeting?

[quickbuck]

Remember the old days before transponders.............

Stop watches and lots of time keepers!!!
No one worried back then..............

Doesn't mean transponders are not an improvement though Scrivy....

Hell, we struggle to get enough volunteers to wave flags and recover bikes... would hate to think if we asked them to click on a stop-watch too...
Then there is the whole human factors issue.

Heck, can't pay our lap scorers anywhere near enough for the BS they put up with in the Enduros (Mopedathon, and Grass Sprint)... and that is just on base!

Okay, I see your tounge in your cheek!

If I was allowed to vote:
I would go for Option 1.
For me I would like the most up to date, and accurate system available.... I am a gadget freak, and Type A personality (one of those that loves everything measured as accurately as possible, so as one can brag....)

The thing is (and I trust this is happening) is the more the transponder system is being utilised, the more development goes back into the system.
Hardware gets improved on, and development improves.

If the main customer base only uses the system every now and again, then there is little point keeping up with developing the system.

I could be off the mark, but that is how I see it.

[sinfull]

Lets keep it to racers only. So if you currently race, feel free to vote.

Leave me out of the loop why don't ya !

[Biggles08]

you qualify Sinfull....go for gold bro! :-)

[scrivy]

Doesn't mean transponders are not an improvement though Scrivy....
Yeah, I didn't say the 'good' old days......

Hell, we struggle to get enough volunteers to wave flags and recover bikes... would hate to think if we asked them to click on a stop-watch too... Would be nigh on impossible nowadays...
Then there is the whole human factors issue.

Heck, can't pay our lap scorers anywhere near enough for the BS they put up with in the Enduros (Mopedathon, and Grass Sprint)... and that is just on base!

Okay, I see your tounge in your cheek!

If I was allowed to vote:
I would go for Option 1.
For me I would like the most up to date, and accurate system available.... I am a gadget freak, and Type A personality (one of those that loves everything measured as accurately as possible, so as one can brag....) Isn't it 9 inches....????

The thing is (and I trust this is happening) is the more the transponder system is being utilised, the more development goes back into the system.
Hardware gets improved on, and development improves.

If the main customer base only uses the system every now and again, then there is little point keeping up with developing the system.

I could be off the mark, but that is how I see it.

Why can't some techno freaks make a light system that doesn't need flaggies?? The clerk could just turn on a yellow light at a flag point.......

[quickbuck]

Why can't some techno freaks make a light system that doesn't need flaggies?? The clerk could just turn on a yellow light at a flag point.......

Well... Yes, with Technology going the way it is...
That shouldn't be too far away.

Trouble is to then get the light to run over and comfort the fallen rider, and pick up his bike when he can't....

[woodyracer]

Well... Yes, with Technology going the way it is...
That shouldn't be too far away.

Trouble is to then get the light to run over and comfort the fallen rider, and pick up his bike when he can't....

thats why you have robots which pick the rider up, pull his bike to the side, and give him a warm glass of milk

[scrivy]

thats why you have robots which pick the rider up, pull his bike to the side, and give him a warm glass of milk

If it was a glass of bourbon, then I say hell yes!!

Seriously, why can't marshall posts have inbuilt radios/intercoms and possibly light systems??
You would still need someone to lift off a bike etc though.

[sidecar bob]

lol....ahhh the good ol days! hehehe

It seemed to work, and it was $70 cheaper. Its not hard to figure out where you came in a race, & if you are testing set up, whats wrong with a mate with a stopwatch on pit wall? Do we really need to get down to two decimal places?

[sidecar bob]

Well... Yes, with Technology going the way it is...
That shouldn't be too far away.

Trouble is to then get the light to run over and comfort the fallen rider, and pick up his bike when he can't....

Attatch a self-righting device to the bike & post a couple of comfort girls on the infield on pit bikes for quick response. Problem solved.

[scrivy]

Do we really need to get down to two decimal places?

3 places......

Attatch a self-righting device to the bike & post a couple of comfort girls on the infield on pit bikes for quick response. Problem solved.

You mean fluffers???? You'd be crashing deliberately!!!!!!

[puddy]

So excuse my ignorance, but how does marktime (and similar) work out lap times?
Nobody (marshal or comfort girls) came over and held my hand or rubbed my back when I fell off weekend before last!

[Whitebait]

Remember the old days before transponders.............

Stop watches and lots of time keepers!!!
No one worried back then..............

Back when men were men and if you had a problem with someone you just punched them.

I splashed out and bought my own transponder sure it cost me nearly $700 but it just about paid for itself now and when your a high roller like myself (insert account ballance of 26 cents here) a little bit of future proofing is a good idea.

Plus you get heaps of cool features on mylaps.com to compare yourself with other peoples laps.

How many people didn't qualify at the TRRS this year because the people in the box couldn't see the numbers????????

Motorcycles are fast now real fast.........................................shoul d we wear fluro bibs next year to make it easier????????

Everything changes..........some times for the best, I think transponders is the way forward

Good thread Biggles!

[sidecar bob]

How many people didn't qualify at the TRRS this year because the people in the box couldn't see the numbers????????

Only the ones who's number sizes were so far from the specifications laid down by MNZ that it was ridiculous..

[scott411]

Why can't some techno freaks make a light system that doesn't need flaggies?? The clerk could just turn on a yellow light at a flag point.......

us smart as motocross boys already have this at Harrsiville, one person can control 5 flags, and there is a LED light and a siren that goes off on command, it was not that expensive to set up either,

[boostin]

Biggles how much would it cost to get transponders to say an AMCC club round?

So far it seems to be about $40 (if 100 entries) + $37.50 for transponder hire. So an additional $77.50.