Am I being unreasonable?

[FJRider]

I attended a training course on dec 16, met the criteria (because the only way to fail is to not turn up) and was awarded the unit standards.

There lies the key to your problem ...


NZQA do have standards too ... and there are some courses that do not recieve NZQA recognition. Especially some courses that attendance is all that is required to pass. Perhaps in future, you attend courses that DO have NZQA accreditation ...

[Headbanger]

There lies the key to your problem ...


NZQA do have standards too ... and there are some courses that do not recieve NZQA recognition. Especially some courses that attendance is all that is required to pass. Perhaps in future, you attend courses that DO have NZQA accreditation ...

My god man, You're a genius.

No wait, My mistake.

Your an idiot.

[FJRider]

My god man, You're a genius.

No wait, My mistake.

Your an idiot.

Your the one attending courses that ain't worth shit to NZQA ...

[Headbanger]

Your the one attending courses that ain't worth shit to NZQA ...

Factually incorrect.

...........................HA.


And for the record I don't consider you an idiot, But I did enjoy calling you one.

[FJRider]

NZQA accreditation is something you check before attending courses ... and ask all the silly questions before starting. Unless it is required for you work. THEN ... it matters little, except for your own satisfaction. (add certificate to your CV) and use it as a stepping stone to higher qualifications later ...

Paperwork on some smaller courses always take time ...


And for the record ... I am a self-declared smarty-pants (some may read shit-stirrer)

[Headbanger]

NZQA accreditation is something you check before attending courses ... and ask all the silly questions before starting. Unless it is required for you work. THEN ... it matters little, except for your own satisfaction. (add certificate to your CV) and use it as a stepping stone to higher qualifications later ...

Paperwork on some smaller courses always take time ...


And for the record ... I am a self-declared smarty-pants (some may read shit-stirrer)

And apparently did not read anything I posted after skimming over the very first post and making some incorrect assumptions.

[peasea]

Fuckity fuck fuck.


Fuck

Fuck fuck

Fuck

This was the best bit.
Have some bling for your stress if nothing else.

[Jantar]

I attended a training course on dec 16, met the criteria (because the only way to fail is to not turn up) and was awarded the unit standards.

I have received the certification from the training orginisation to say I passed yet the units have never been registered with the NZQA so in my mind the bit of paper is worthless. Its like getting a drivers license without anyone ever entering it into the system.

The other issue is that these credits get consolidated into a real qualification when you reach a certain level, this can't happen when the bastards aren't registering them.

A couple of years back when I created a student account at the NZQA I discovered that much of the training I had done in the years before had never been registered (and when I contacted these training providers they refused to register due to the amount of time that had passed), So I encourage everyone to have a look at the NZQA site and see if their training has been recorded. Its a matter for concern.

Anyway, Back to the current situation, I have sent off 5 or 6 emails asking about the status of the credits earned in Dec, I was pretty much ignored apart from a single email telling me they would look into it and get back to me.

No one ever got back to me.

A couple of days ago I wrote them another email stating I was going to lay a complaint with the NZQA (I have no idea if they would give a damn) and finally received a response.

They informed me that I was being unreasonable, Queried why I would even want my credits registered in an unreasonable time ( I mean ffs ) Informed that there is no delay, and btw it maybe 6 more months before they are registered, and that...wait for it, It has nothing to do with them and isn't there problem.

In fact, there is no problem except I'm complaining.

However because I'm being so unreasonable they will query if the process can be fast tracked. Its too fucking late to fast track it fuckballs.

**Bangs head against wall**

One of the worst things about this country is not the crap service we get, But that these fuckers insist its actually great service.

You are not being unreasonable in wanting to see your credits registered. However I would question the worth of any credits that can be gained from a one day course without any formal assessment. Each credit is supposed to represent the equivilent of 10 hours study, and should be assessed to ensure that the standard is met. So was this course the assessment part of some study done previously, or was it the actual study. If the former then you certainly have a case. If the latter, then it is possible that course provider is still waiting for your assesment.

[Headbanger]

Right.

This

(because the only way to fail is to not turn up)

is sarcasm.

Every course I have been on I have asked the instructor if they have ever failed anyone, You can guess the answer.

The course was for two days and after each module the assessment was done, and marked. For this particular course I done three modules, and all were selected due to relevance in my (at that time) place of work and to count towards a specific qualification.


17599 Plan a confined space entry
18426 Demonstrate knowledge of hazards associated with confined space
25510 Operate an atmospheric testing device to determine a suitable atmosphere exists to
work safely

[sunhuntin]

i would be interested to find out which PTE you went through. i work as a cleaner for ag challenge, which mainly supplies youth and some older unskilled people. im not aware of them running short courses except for first aid once or twice a year.

i could possibly ask one of the receptionists as to what steps you could take re: your points not being added/received etc. have you gone back to your PTE and asked wtf is going on?

[Headbanger]

Training was done in Auckland , I have been all over the country to get the specific unit standards I was after.

I'm not going to name anyone as Ive started the complaints procedure and the instructors were contractors bought in to run the course, and they were excellent.

[sunhuntin]

ahhh, ok. i assumed youd done the course locally. lol. doh. still, if you want me to ask the girls at ag, im more than happy to

[Swoop]

Training was done in Auckland...

Aha. This gets more interesting...

[Conquiztador]

Right

17599 Plan a confined space entry
18426 Demonstrate knowledge of hazards associated with confined space
25510 Operate an atmospheric testing device to determine a suitable atmosphere exists to
work safely

I could have sooo much fun with this... confined space entry... lolol

[Jantar]

I found 17599 (5 credits at level 4) and 18426 (4 credits at level 3), but for 25510 I got:

Framework search results 25510
Classification system (0) Qualifications (0) Unit Standards (0)
Classification System
No field, sub-field or domain names found

Qualifications
No qualifications found

Unit Standards
No unit standards found

However for the two I did find that should be 50 hours study, not just a 2 day course.

I'm suprised to find that these are worth so many credits as our industry also covers confined spaces in 2 days, but it is built into elements of other standards.