2010 Yamaha FZ8/Fazer 8

[carver]

Guys running Keihin FCR41's, Full race pipes, cams and a 878cc big bore kit are reliably running 102hp and 96nm. There is a guy who has custom made 902cc high compression pistons, balanced crankshaft, cams, flowed head etc... it's still in the build stage but from work done on a flow bench comparing changes to a standard 850cc head he's hoping for 120hp. So maybe 105-110nm? All of his projections and estimates on the 850cc head were fairly accurate so I don't think he's that much of a dreamer.



My point was that the engine in my bike which dates back pre-1995 made more torque than nearly all 600cc inline four supersports bikes until around 2003-2004. If Yamaha were to do a new TRX900+ and use apply all the technology they've used in the R6 then you'd be looking at a pretty awesome power package.

120hp isn't an unreasonable goal/expectation, i said 120nm of torque because as a stock bike the TRX makes slightly more torque (83nm) than horesepower (78hp) and I thought the numbers would likely increase proportionally but obviously didn't take into account that most of the HP gain is from freeing up RPM in the top end with cams and a de-restricted CDI.

all that work for 120hp?
My old GSXR made more at the rear wheel, even with 55 on the cock!

[imdying]

It is interesting how ownership of a bike can blind us to realities. Model loyalty is often incredibly strong for some people.

[SPman]

Would be nice if this is the prelude to Yamaha finally making the bike they should've all along - the R8

Aaaaaaaaah.....if only!

[Smiff-ta]

FZ8 Due this month

Naked $15,995 + ORC
Diversion $17,495 +ORC

[avgas]

While I am slightly biased, I'm actually wondering why they didn't got with a higher performance TDM900 motor - maybe aim for 110-115hp - it'd have oodles of torque. Re-invent the TRX850 as a modern middleweight sport tourer.

Yep. Seeing at the TDM is like the retarded looking cousin no one talks about.
I loved my FZ1.......but fucked if I would buy a FZ8 over something like the street-triple.
Yamaha just need to man up and make the MT-OS like they promised me. Stop dicking with these stupid bikes.

[george formby]

Yep. Seeing at the TDM is like the retarded looking cousin no one talks about.
I love my FZ1.......but fucked if I would buy a FZ8 over something like the street-triple.
Yamaha just need to man up and make the MT-OS like they promised me. Stop dicking with these stupid bikes.

How dare you! I resemble that statement.

[pritch]

looks like another over rated uninspiring over priced yamaha

BIKE (August issue?) just did a test of several 800s including the Yamaha which is very expensive in the UK market. My summary of their comments would be to say BIKE were underwhelmed.

After the end of the test they compared the FZ8 to the Hornet 600 and said that the Hornet is a better bike than any of the 800s they tested including the Yamaha.

Can't quote fine detail; I'm at work, the mag isn't.

[NZsarge]

Yamaha are in a fair bit of strife at the moment, I read some where the they made a loss of something like 5 million pounds last year but apparently a good chunk of that was due to one off restructuring costs. The only way Yamaha see of getting out of the whole is to up the price of their bikes, this is reflected in their UK prices at the moment, a R1 is the best part of 2 thousand pound dearer than the rest of the Japanese competition and line ball with the BMW S1000RR. Either it's yet to hit here or Yamaha NZ have found a way of sheltering Kiwi customers from the worst of it bearing in mind that Yamaha's are always on the dearer side anyway.
All this info came from a dirty old UK magazine so take it with a huge grain of salt.
I've also read that the Volkswagen Auto Group are on the look out for a motorcycle manufacturer....
Although reports are they've already taken a chunk out of Suzuki Auto.

[Hitcher]

Yamaha New Zealand's marketing baffles me. According to their official web site, they offer a handful of bikes. However a quick squiz around their dealer network reveals two versions of the FJR1300, the XJR1300, TDM900, FZ1N and FZ1S, MT01, Tenere 660, Tenere 1200, and a couple of others, none of which are listed on the web site.

Also the website has no RRP information. What's that all about? All of their competitors provide this service to prospective buyers.

[carver]

BIKE (August issue?) just did a test of several 800s including the Yamaha which is very expensive in the UK market. My summary of their comments would be to say BIKE were underwhelmed.

After the end of the test they compared the FZ8 to the Hornet 600 and said that the Hornet is a better bike than any of the 800s they tested including the Yamaha.

Can't quote fine detail; I'm at work, the mag isn't.

wow, i was underwhelmed by the hornet 600...
not a bad bike, but nothing to shout about.
that yamaha must be shite!

Yamaha New Zealand's marketing baffles me. According to their official web site, they offer a handful of bikes. However a quick squiz around their dealer network reveals two versions of the FJR1300, the XJR1300, TDM900, FZ1N and FZ1S, MT01, Tenere 660, Tenere 1200, and a couple of others, none of which are listed on the web site.

Also the website has no RRP information. What's that all about? All of their competitors provide this service to prospective buyers.

I have never got yamaha nz either

they always wank on about "quality", but i saw XT660R's with warped/faded plastics after a few months in the weather!
they aint as good as honda for finish, and they are just too expensive compared to suzuki....

[Smiff-ta]

Hitcher
Yamaha New Zealand's marketing baffles me. According to their official web site, they offer a handful of bikes. However a quick squiz around their dealer network reveals two versions of the FJR1300, the XJR1300, TDM900, FZ1N and FZ1S, MT01, Tenere 660, Tenere 1200, and a couple of others, none of which are listed on the web site.

Also the website has no RRP information. What's that all about? All of their competitors provide this service to prospective buyers.

Had a quick look at Yamaha Nz site myself.

FZ1N and S are not current models in Nz
XJR has also been dropped

Everything else is there.

Just the Tenere 1200 missing and RRP price list. Wonder why the price list is not there.

Interesting stuff.

GSXR600 $18,495 RRP GSXR1000 $22,495 RRP GSX650 $13,495 RRP
YZF-R6 $18,395 RRP YZF-R1 $23,990 RRP XJ6-N $13,295 RRP XJ6-S $13,695 RRP FZ8-N $15,995 RRP
ZX6R $18,995 RRP ZX10R $23,995 RRP ER-6N $12,995 RRP Z1000 $19,995 RRP
CBR600RR $18,999 RRP CBR1000RR $23,999 RRP CB600F $11,995 RRP CB1000R $19,995 RRP

Prices all seem pretty compairable too me, not sure if FZ8 is a good comparison to Z1000 and CB1000, guess we will see when it gets to NZ
I have used NON ABS Honda pricing to keep it conpairable.
I don't see price being an issue, personal preference maybe.

[avgas]

How dare you! I resemble that statement.

I certainly hope not. Otherwise some facial reconstruction is in order

[avgas]

I've also read that the Volkswagen Auto Group are on the look out for a motorcycle manufacturer....
Although reports are they've already taken a chunk out of Suzuki Auto.

Toyota.....oppps sorry "FUJI Heavy Industries" would not allow it I suspect.
Hence the mysterious cash injections into Yamaha R&D even though sales are still down......

mabey I have said too much.....

[pritch]

The price difference in Britain as listed in BIKE is quite marked.
In pounds:
BMW F800R - 6720
Ducati Monster 796 - 7120
Yamaha FZ8 - 7924
Feel free to do your own conversions...

And the Hornet, rated by BIKE as better than any of them, is 6255. I guess somebody will buy the Yamaha but probably mostly in a year or so after they've been discounted?

["D" FZ1]

yup. Nekkid every time.

I hear we will get it in nz but it aint gonna be cheap ($18-19k ish). Compare to $15-16 for a shiver or z750 or $19 for the z thou

$15,995 + ORC for the Naked and $17,495 + ORC for the "S"

We should have them in store soon