2010 Yamaha FZ8/Fazer 8

[slowpoke]

Sorry, but you guys are dreaming if you think you're gonna get 120hp and 120Nm torque out of a TDM/TRX. Even an SV1000 might make that sort of power but still well short of the torque, 'round the 100Nm mark.

[whowhatwhere]

A Fazer is always going to be an inline-4. It's made for the European market who have a fetish for the inline-4. I'm just a bit miffed that yamaha didn't put a bit more effort in as the FZ8 and FZ1 now look far too similar, but then I guess it's just an evolution of the old 6. I think the Diversion F looks better personally (apart from the parts-bin swinger!).

[geoffm]

Can't see them selling many of those for $20k. There is much competition if you ahve that sort of dollars, and much of it better looking than that naked version.

[revlikeshit]

R6_Kid.......
dont know where you get this idea that a 270' crank 800cc(or even 850cc)twin is somehow going to make more torque than a 800cc inline four with the same sort of tuning(e.g bog stock factory road bike)

If anything the inline four will have more peak torque by a decent amount, the difference will be the way the two deliver said torque, twin will be more tractable, four will like to be revved.

Money no object my pick would be the duke 696.

[NZsarge]

I'm keen to ride one of these, particularly if the engine is derived from the current R1 (having recently ridden one of those) and being the proud owner of a Shiver.

No I don't think it is, pretty sure it's derived from the current FZ1 which has a retuned '03-'04 R1 based motor. If the next FZ1 gets the cross plane motor it should be a ripper of a bike in theory.

Street Triple is £2k cheaper than the FZ8 in the UK. Yamaha need a reality check - I bet a lot of Yamaha dealerships are very nervous right now, expecially if that's the only brand they sell.

Pay no attention to UK prices coz more often than not the is bugger all correlation between the two markets price wise particularly when it comes to Japanese motorcycle prices versus British motorcycle prices.

If it has a cross-plane crankshaft it'll be a beast. Sadly I don't think it will.

yes it would be nice but I agree, I'm pretty sure it's a normal firing order..

sadly no.....

A-huh...

[Cr1MiNaL]

If its gonna cost $20k I don't know why anyone would bother. Just buy a superbike.

[slowpoke]

No point putting a vibey cross plane crank in something that isn't primarily designed as a track bike.

[carver]

If its gonna cost $20k I don't know why anyone would bother. Just buy a superbike.

go the GSXR1000!

[Cr1MiNaL]

go the GSXR1000!

No I said 'superbike' not poor mans Yamaha.

[carver]

No I said 'superbike' not poor mans Yamaha.

you wont be poor after not having to replace the clutch every twenty'thou

[Cr1MiNaL]

you wont be poor after not having to replace the clutch every twenty'thou

Replacing parts - r u sure u want to go down that line of defense when your defending a GSXR ? lol u might want to rethink that haha. GSXR's r the worst 1000 cc bike of all IMO. Id never own 1.

[Mental Trousers]

Would be nice if this is the prelude to Yamaha finally making the bike they should've all along - the R8

[carver]

ya rekon?
i think the ZX10 would be the worst!
stoud seems happy with the GSXR while he owns yamaha ass

[R6_kid:Me]

Sorry, but you guys are dreaming if you think you're gonna get 120hp and 120Nm torque out of a TDM/TRX. Even an SV1000 might make that sort of power but still well short of the torque, 'round the 100Nm mark.

Guys running Keihin FCR41's, Full race pipes, cams and a 878cc big bore kit are reliably running 102hp and 96nm. There is a guy who has custom made 902cc high compression pistons, balanced crankshaft, cams, flowed head etc... it's still in the build stage but from work done on a flow bench comparing changes to a standard 850cc head he's hoping for 120hp. So maybe 105-110nm? All of his projections and estimates on the 850cc head were fairly accurate so I don't think he's that much of a dreamer.

R6_Kid.......
dont know where you get this idea that a 270' crank 800cc(or even 850cc)twin is somehow going to make more torque than a 800cc inline four with the same sort of tuning(e.g bog stock factory road bike)

If anything the inline four will have more peak torque by a decent amount, the difference will be the way the two deliver said torque, twin will be more tractable, four will like to be revved.

Money no object my pick would be the duke 696.

My point was that the engine in my bike which dates back pre-1995 made more torque than nearly all 600cc inline four supersports bikes until around 2003-2004. If Yamaha were to do a new TRX900+ and use apply all the technology they've used in the R6 then you'd be looking at a pretty awesome power package.

120hp isn't an unreasonable goal/expectation, i said 120nm of torque because as a stock bike the TRX makes slightly more torque (83nm) than horesepower (78hp) and I thought the numbers would likely increase proportionally but obviously didn't take into account that most of the HP gain is from freeing up RPM in the top end with cams and a de-restricted CDI.

[R6_kid:Me]

R6_Kid.......
dont know where you get this idea that a 270' crank 800cc(or even 850cc)twin is somehow going to make more torque than a 800cc inline four with the same sort of tuning(e.g bog stock factory road bike)

If anything the inline four will have more peak torque by a decent amount, the difference will be the way the two deliver said torque, twin will be more tractable, four will like to be revved.

Money no object my pick would be the duke 696.

Read it and weep... 2005 ER6n vs 2004+ Yamaha FZ6n

You'll see they are about the same. Keep in mind that the FZ6 is a slightly de-tuned R6 motor and the ER6 is a deliberately under-stressed commuter bike. Sure it has an extra 50cc but it's still a fair comparison.