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  1. #46
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    Slam on both brakes as hard as possible.

    Clutch in, tap-tap-tap all the way down the gear box

    Dump the clutch.

    Enjoy.
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNanna View Post
    Wasn't me officer, honest, it was that morcs guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Littleman View Post
    Yeah I do recall, but dismissed it as being you when I saw both wheels on the ground.
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    lulz, ever ridden a TL1000R? More to the point, ever ridden with teh Morcs? Didn't fink so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post

    You'll find another large school of thought that says you should have all fingers either on or off the brake. This can especially have an impact under emergency braking with those people that don't engage the clutch straight away, as you run the serious risk of driving the engine against the brakes when you have some fingers on the throttle and some on the brake.
    You make a valid point. A way of reducing the chance of rolling on the throttle accidentally while braking (with one, two, or all fingers) is to make sure that the brake lever is set at an angle well below horizontal so that you have to reach down - this has the effect of automatically rolling the throttle closed when you reach for the brake lever. The actual position will vary depending on the rise of the bars/clipons etc.

    It's amazing how many don't bother to adjust their controls to suit their riding style or even their body size. I've ridden other people's bikes where the gear lever is set so high that changing gears is a mission, or the slack in the throttle cables is so huge that you there's half a turn before there's any effect. I once had a race bike that just felt damn awkward....until I realised that the clipons were set 50mm too much inwards, I turned them out and it made a huge difference to the way the bike handled. The former owner was a bit shorter than me and had a shorter reach, so what was comfortable for him had me all crunched up. Everybody is different in what is comfortable of course, but don't just accept the bike the way it came from the previous owner without resetting the controls for your own comfort and safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urano View Post
    because it increase your stopping distance, that's why you shouldn't.
    in my opinion we'll have to clearly declare which is the question: do i have to COME TO A STOP or do i have to AVOID the obstacle?
    in the first case, you have a wall in front of you. there's no "escape" after: you were dumbly lookin at how your tank shines then up your eye and find a 18 meter truck exactly in the middle of the lane. there you have to stop, no question. in the second, a car suddenly stops in the middle of the lane and turn without the indicator: in that case you can avoid it, and in that case i'd probably use very little the front brake, cause stopping is not my first option (different would be if you have a truck coming in front of you on the other lane...)

    so if you want to stop, the right gear at the end is completely unuseful, while the engine will continue to drag you ahead what the heck did you just say? you drive an auto right?and you cannot be focused on the front wheel: why would you focous on the front wheel? this takes your focus off looking for that gap or steering or stopieing or whatever it is you do while tryna stop
    http://www.fmq.qc.ca/pdf/amorce-freinage_eng.pdf

    and about stopping in less space than a car, who said that?
    http://www.monteverdiclub.com/rahmen/stoptbl.htm
    to me seems equal.
    and maybe there's much more cases in which the car stops in less space, cause the bike is often faster in the traffic flow. it's true, the bike is lighter, but it has less tyre surface on the ground, it has more weight transfer, often faster pace and in the most cases no brakin assist.
    [B]Not a hellova lot of people out there can brake real hard without the fear of falling off their bike... cars you can lock up and you dont bite the dirt, this probably has more to do with your "statistics"[/B]
    with what data are you saying bikes stops shorter?
    Who knows, Why dont ya just avoid those kind of situations by using both eyes and a couple of ears to search for danger?

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    1- i say that your engine, if the clutch is engaged, drag you ahead... read the pdf i've linked, please...
    2- no, i don't drive a car. not only, i mean...
    3- with "focus" i meant "focus on givin the max grip and braking power to the front wheel" not "look at how spherical is my front tyre"... to look for escape routes is something very important and always to do, but in this case was not complying with premises...
    4- statistics are not "mine". test are made by professionals with safety devices (such as lateral wheels) and in ideal conditions, so the "fear" is not a factor.



    and yes, not to be in those situations is way the best solution....

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