Hampton Downs - Sidechairs ruin another race meeting by dumping oil on the track!

[jasonu]

He knows us, he's taking the piss

We'll give the little wanker a slapping next time we see him

Nice one....

[Kickaha]

The Uk go a bit further than we do with oil containment, from the 2010 ACU rulebook

Oil and coolant containment. In the area directly below the engine, the oil containment tray must be constructed to hold, in the case of an engine breakdown at least half of the total oil and engine coolant capacity used in the engine (min 5 litres).
The surrounding edges of the tray must be at least 30 mm above the bottom of the tray.
This tray should incorporate a maximum of two holes of 25 mm diameter and be closed with rubber plugs. These holes must remain closed in dry conditions, and only opened when wet-race conditions have been declared by the clerk of the course.
The frontal edge from the oil tray wall must be extended upwards to arrive just below, (within 20 mm) the exhaust ports of the engine.
Holes for engine mounts (hangers) must be sealed.
From a vertical view, the engine must be located completely inside the oil tray platform.
The rear wheel must be protected from any possible oil spray. To make this protection, the engine and the rear wheel compartment must be separated.
This separation must be created by installing a solid divider (wall) running from the top of the inside of the bodywork to the bottom of the oil tray. This divider (wall) must overlap the rear edge of the oil tray down to the bottom.
All machines must use this tray.
All sidecars shall attach oil-absorbent materials of no less a quality than 3M product T156 or CEP Sorbents product CEP-EP100.
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This material shall be securely fixed to the following areas of the sidecar.
1. The entire oil-tray, both the bottom and inside walls of the same. The volume of material used in this area, according to the manufacturer’s specifications, shall absorb not less than 3 litres of oil.
2. Any bodywork directly covering the engine
In the event that oil is absorbed by the material, it must be replaced before the next track session.
The material must be attached in such a way that it should be easily replaced, yet must not become dislodged whilst on the track, and its effectiveness is not inhibited, i.e. if an adhesive is used it must not clog the material, causing it to lose its absorbent properties.
All absorbent material shall be non-flammable by design.

[Biggles08]

Stupid comment

Stupider comment ;-)

[ashracer]

#3 Where is it going? Is there any potential for any of these outfits or riders to move onwards overseas to international success?

Buckley/Abrahams won Bathurst sidecars in about 2001, & many NZ sidecars have raced in Aussie over the last 40 years. Scrivener, Glen murray, Steve Bron, Roger Stent, Colin Brewer to mention a few. Lawrance brothers have raced at the IOM tt 5 times, won the Isle of Mann national championship, done countless UK meetings at Silverstone, Brands Hatch mallory park etc. They have also competed in the australian championship & Chris Lawrance rode an 8 hour race at magny Cours (France) and a 6 hour at Nurburg ring Germany, on a solo. So yes some of these guys do get out of NZ & compete. And Steve Bron is doing the world championship...

[ashracer]

[QUOTE=motogp1;1129700581]A sidechair/sidecar/sidecrap dumps a huge load of oil on the track

A lot of people involved in sidecars were furious about this guy. I was fuckin angry. oil containment systems only seem to work when the bike is stationary, not sloshing the spilled oil on a 100mph corner.

One point no one else has noticed about this meeting, why when trye scrub in was set for 9am , were people haveing there photos taken on the track & the day got off 1 hour behind at 10am???

[Biggles08]

One point no one else has noticed about this meeting, why when trye scrub in was set for 9am , were people haveing there photos taken on the track & the day got off 1 hour behind at 10am???

I wasn't, I was in the toilet :-)

[Racey Rider]

Drop oil once - Officials wave their finger at you.
Drop oil twice - You're made to place 'Feminine Hygiene Products' under your motor for the rest of the season!

[sidecar bob]

Drop oil twice - You're made to place 'Feminine Hygiene Products' under your motor for the rest of the season!

Better still, made to wear them on your head?

[cowpoos]

How dare you imply it wasn't the sidecars fault

I love the safety device fitted to your sidecar [in avatar pic]....burns all oil leaving the engine!! all sidecars should be fitted with it!!

[cowpoos]

Stupid comment

FUck off....Cock

[Bren_chch]

Nice one....

Stupid comment

[Kickaha]

Play nice guys, he wasn't to know K14 knows us and was taking the piss

[Bren_chch]

Play nice guys, he wasn't to know K14 knows us and was taking the piss

oil spilling demon!

[White trash]

A sidechair/sidecar/sidecrap dumps a huge load of oil on the track yet again causing massive delays and no doubt causing several of the crashes in the proceeding races...... Questions....

#1 Who scrutineers these things? Whilst some are very good, clean competition machines, others(most?) would be laughed out of the pits in any other country. Filthy, poorly built and maintained bikes should not be on the track especially at a national championship event.

#2 Who cares about sidechairs? Watch the stand empty when they are up next, seriously. It is a perfect time to get a hotdog or take a piss which is exactly what 75% of the people seem to do. With so many exciting classes that would actually interest people, raced by modern bikes wtf are they even doing there?

#3 Where is it going? Is there any potential for any of these outfits or riders to move onwards overseas to international success? When you have a near 100k chair racing a heap of shit ancient gsx1100 powered piece of crap that belches smoke and steam from every orrifice what are you really achieving?

Anyway, I'm oviously pissed at another meeting ruined by bikes that only 1% of people at best even cared were there.

P.S whoever decided that there didn't need to be power in the prize giving marquee forcing the winners names to be read in the dark by torchlight - you are the man!!

You know, I read this post this morning and it thoroughly pissed me off. Until I texted a mate comenting on the "Know it all wankers" who seem to frequent KB now days. Having had a day of reflection, I figure you're as entitled to an oppinion as much as this wanker.

So I'll chuck an oar in for shits and giggles.

#1. From what I've personally seen, probably the most professional and certainly one of the most knoledgeable guys in ANY class of motorcycle racing in NZ scrutineers them. Sometimes, when you're stressing race machines to their limits, shit breaks. Bit of a shame that 'cause it costs people a shit load of money just to be there and they certainly don't wish their bike will expire during an event I'm sure.

#2. Depends on where you sit. I was with a bunch of people who got up and went for a wander while the street stock race was taking place. I for one love the initiative and stepping stone nature of the class, I'd love to even take part in it for sheer shits and giggles but by christ it's boring to watch. Horses for courses and all that.

#3. Interestingly, it wasn't a "heap of shit ancient gsx1100 powered piece of crap that belches smoke and steam from every orrifice " that expired and caused the resulting slick. It was a far more modern and professionally built rig, admittedly with an older motor pushing it along. I've seen a three quarter of a million dollar door slammer "oil down" a track from the 60' to well past the 1000' before it stepped out and rolled. Money spent isn't the issue.

See, there's an opposite side to most coins.

[jellywrestler]

the 125's went down for a variety of reasons, none of which i believe relate to oil.

The clean up was pretty good i thought, grip wasn't fantastic but wasn't bad, not sure if that was all oil related either.

the cement dust was mint, it gave a good reference point coming over the hill into turn one!

agreed, I was in the commentators box and they all rode around the oil affected area, one went down and the others got caught up with the first one