Smacking Bill again

[rainman]

My wife and myself discipline our children very differently (maybe it's the inconsistency )... she uses the reasoning, the naughty step, timeout, shouting and any other method she can lay her hands on... I offer the kids an alternative and they stop doing what they're doing... IF, my wife finds a way to discipline the kids without "physical" intervention... then I will adopt it...

We might have to end up disagreeing on this topic, but I can't but help pick up on your comment above. Sounds like your wife has found several ways to discipline the kids without physical intervention. I suspect if you allow yourself to see these as valid forms of discipline then your problem may be solved. But good luck with it.

[mashman]

We might have to end up disagreeing on this topic, but I can't but help pick up on your comment above. Sounds like your wife has found several ways to discipline the kids without physical intervention. I suspect if you allow yourself to see these as valid forms of discipline then your problem may be solved. But good luck with it.

We are disagreeing on this one... I have no problem with that... Perhaps I should have added, "that works" to the end of the quote eralier... I know full well that they're valid forms of discipline, I'm not naive enough to think that a smack will cure all, or that logic and reason will cure all, or that a baseball bat will cure all... but in my eyes, if they aren't working in our household, then I need to try something tried and tested from some 18 years ago until something "better" comes along... perhaps we need professional help, like Supernanny (go on, dare ya to say ya wouldn't )...

[Fatjim]

OK, perhaps my being rude was uncalled for - my apologies, it's been a shit day. Week, probably.

But my point is clear - this act will not eliminate child abuse, and I don't think it was ever credibly claimed that it would. It removes a (possibly over-used) defence for child assault - which is surely a good thing in itself? You're the one claiming it's the cure to child abuse (or it has no value).

And don't believe IQ tests too readily. I had a Wechsler test a few years ago. Very instructive.

This is an anti smacking law. If I smack my child in front of a police officer I can expect to be prosecuted under this law. Can I not?

I choose to smack my children, and that's my choice. My children also know what will happen if they complain. My children would rather be smacked on the bum for being way out of line, than lose their father.

The difficulty now is that I now longer in good conscience can teach my children to obey the law, because I apparently don't. I hope the moral guidance and example I give them will allow them to live happy lives despite this. For those on this site, and there are many, who don't believe in morals, I apologise.

[mashman]

For those on this site, and there are many, who don't believe in morals, I apologise.

Heretic!!!!! or whatever the common word is these days... BURN HIM

[rainman]

The difficulty now is that I now longer in good conscience can teach my children to obey the law, because I apparently don't.

Well, you could always start.

[Skyryder]

Oh no not another smacking thread.................................boring boring boring.



Skyryder

[Squiggles]

shows what the politicians think of public opinion though doesn't it. Simply having majority isn't enough, I gotta wonder how it can be overturned when they just ignore public opinion.

It was a fucken stupid question...

[bogan]

It was a fucken stupid question...

I agree it was poorly worded, but surely in the leaders infinite wisdom they would have realized this before sending said question to millions of people, I reckon the question was rigged to be a cop out, and it wasn't even that hard to understand.

[Squiggles]

I agree it was poorly worded, but surely in the leaders infinite wisdom they would have realized this before sending said question to millions of people

It was the petition question, they had to ask it exactly as it was worded.

[Oscar]

I agree it was poorly worded, but surely in the leaders infinite wisdom they would have realized this before sending said question to millions of people, I reckon the question was rigged to be a cop out, and it wasn't even that hard to understand.

The referendum question has to be asked as the petition was worded.
Imagine the outcry if the wording was changed for the referendum.

[mashman]

So nothing has been learned because not only are the agencies disjointed, they aren't tracking the cases and families are being hurt by this and the "prevention" the bill was supposed to bring about hasn't worked. And to think the majority of the population to the govt to shove it.

Child assault complaints on the rise

CYF masking effects of smacking law

[Usarka]

Who's Bill?