Pistol shooting

[SMOKEU]

I once did some training with the Police as part of being able to ride along and we were told in no uncertain terms that if you do have to hide behind a car, pick the engine and even then it is lousy cover.

You're not a cop are you?

[Usarka]

Don't knock it until you have tried it.

It's like videoing ones self on a track day - on the bike you're having a blast and it's a real challenge, but unless you're a racer you look like a slow muppet.

PS - It rather do it with a shotgun.

[Tank]

PS - It rather do it with a shotgun.

They do a 3 gun event. Pistol, rifle and shotgun. Not a bad way to spend the day.

[Ronin]

You're not a cop are you?

Would it matter if I was?

[Tank]

Would it matter if I was?

Well, for one I kinda feel silly offering you those drugs at the last rally.

[Ronin]

Well, for one I kinda feel silly offering you those drugs at the last rally.

You mean when I can get 'em using the blue discount?

[SMOKEU]

Would it matter if I was?

I like to stay 1 step ahead of the opposition.

[Tank]

You mean when I can get 'em using the blue discount?

and that wasnt a breathalyzer was it?

[Ronin]

and that wasnt a breathalyzer was it?

Well no but you blew like a champ.

[Tank]

Well no but you blew like a champ.

It was closer to flossing ;-)

[Ronin]

The honda club got there first

[freedom-wedge]

Another informative post. Have you ever been to a pistol range?
The RO and the scorekeeper have holstered firearms because they are also part of the firing detail and part of the competition. Everyone takes their turn with various tasks on the range. The RO has a timer that will be accurate down to 100ths of a second and a match may be won or lost by such a margin.
IPSC competition is damed challenging, much like any top-level discipline of competition.

Don't knock it until you have tried it.

I was an active member of the NZPA for 12 years, action mostly. and the discipline needed is extreme, just to become holster qualified and to be able to draw a pistol takes a fair bit of effort and testing. As a range officer I often ran events like these hot, its the safest way, every one knows that the side arm is loaded no matter where on the range, holstered or on the line except in the saftey zone of course. Its an extreme sport and as such requires much to compete and to stay involved in. My advice to anyone who shoots, go to an open day at a local range its will give you a new appreciation.

Pedro

[freedom-wedge]

And by extreme I mean being able to cast a bullet, to swage it and to load it all to get ones equipment to work well and fast on the day, its a hand eye and time disipline, I never knew anyone in our club nor anywhere else who mentioned the word combat or simulation of such. Its easy to look from the outside in and think somthing is strange. If you talk to the men and women at a range in NZ you find level headedness mostly. There are some valid points made in this thread. Anyway people go and give it a go, there are many classes of pistol event.

Pedro

[firefighter]

The only thing your crap deserves here, is "shut. the. fuck. up".

Everyone else here is enjoying it, or if not, minding their own business...... go preach somewhere else. Are you John Minto by chance?

Fucken hell. What an arsehole.

You may well not see it as "glorifying pitched gun battles", but I do.

Target shooting is one thing, and, as I said, I am no fan of people like Kevin Milne who have a jaded view of guns and their owners, far from it.

If I had to be picky, I would also critisise the choice of music, it made the whole video seem like a "shoot em up" video game.

On a website for motorcyclists, I see there is a sticky thread simply for firearms (I have never even looked at it), so it is safe to assume that for some reason, firearms are pupular in this group.

So be it, like I said, I am no anti gun lobbiest.

To me, as an educated, experienced adult, I can see the dangers of glorifying such sports (by that I mean the first video), actually, now I think about it, I fail to see how any one can NOT see that as glorifying "urban combat"..... What other real life scenario does it play out?

Hunting....

Rabbits? no
Ducks? no
Deer? no
Pigs? no

My experiences of hunting and target shooting never involved stalking a Deer back to it's little wooden house in the clearing, waiting for it to get inside (and take cover), before approaching the little wooden house and shooting the Deer through an open window.

Anyone else?

The second video, that is a different kettle of fish, that (to me) looked like a sport, not to say that shooting pistols through an open window (what situation do you think that represents? collecting on your tick bill perhaps?) doesn't involve a level of skill,but the second video did not represent a real life situation in the slightest....stand on the mark, hit all the target s that you see with these weapons in the shortest possible time.

The first video is the sort of thing you see Police train for........ when the hell is a civilian going to use those skills? (shooting through an open window)

[Swoop]

I was an active member of the NZPA for 12 years, action mostly. and the discipline needed is extreme, just to become holster qualified and to be able to draw a pistol takes a fair bit of effort and testing. As a range officer I often ran events like these hot, its the safest way, every one knows that the side arm is loaded no matter where on the range, holstered or on the line except in the saftey zone of course. Its an extreme sport and as such requires much to compete and to stay involved in. My advice to anyone who shoots, go to an open day at a local range its will give you a new appreciation.

Pedro

Very well said Pedro. Totally different range discipline compared to the Public Servants' ranges where standing 3m away from a (static) paper target is quite common.

... awaits input from our public servants' around here...