ATGATT. Why? It doesn't affect anyone else?

[rastuscat]

Interesrting. If you are at speed, the relative angle that you hit the ground at is less than if you are going slowly.

WOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

So, like, the faster I go, the safer I am?

Say it's true, GO ON, PLEASE !!

[jono035]

The strange thing is that low speed drops are often harder landing. Unless you hit a pole or kerb or something, it is the sudden deceleration impact that breaks bones. Alternatively, a higher speed drop (and slide) can leave bones intact but skin/flesh shredded.
YT had a very low speed drop some years ago. Spiral fracture of ankle and broken thumb. No skin gone.

My injuries: Spiral fracture of the ankle and a badly sprained thumb, no missing skin....

Interesting...

[swbarnett]

WOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

So, like, the faster I go, the safer I am?

Say it's true, GO ON, PLEASE !!

Where did you get that? What I take from what was said is just that the types of injuries are different. Not that the severity is any less.

[Spearfish]

This works well for inner city riding but it does have some drawbacks and little things to consider.

I don't have enough suspension settings to cope with all the weight.

I don't have to worry about trying to pick the bike up after a bin because I cant pick myself up.

It uses a whole tube of Autosol metal polish just to keep it looking so good.

Coping with biker envy and one finger KB waves can be a little discouraging.

Its really important to turn up for a group run with a full tank and empty bladder.

on the plus side

After an off the low friction resistance means I have a long enough slide to phone 111 for help AND phone my wife I could be late home and not to worry.

The negative part is that it gets as hot as an old car bonnet being towed along Muriwai beach!

The big sword is optional for an alternative use on weekends, BONUS!!

[MSTRS:Me]

My injuries: Spiral fracture of the ankle and a badly sprained thumb, no missing skin....

Interesting...

Spooky.
I think what happens is that (if you don't get your leg clear) your foot hits the road, and the weight of the bike landing on it with some forward movement, means the toes are dragged backwards, leading to that rotational fracture. The handlebars also hit the road and pivot rapidly on the steering head, which means that if you don't let go in time, one thumb gets pushed rapidly backwards...known as skier's (or gamekeeper's) thumb.

[jono035]

Spooky.
I think what happens is that (if you don't get your leg clear) your foot hits the road, and the weight of the bike landing on it with some forward movement, means the toes are dragged backwards, leading to that rotational fracture. The handlebars also hit the road and pivot rapidly on the steering head, which means that if you don't let go in time, one thumb gets pushed rapidly backwards...known as skier's (or gamekeeper's) thumb.

That wasn't how I had initially figured that it had happened, but now that I think about it, it does sound a bit more likely...

[R-Soul]

WOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

So, like, the faster I go, the safer I am?

Say it's true, GO ON, PLEASE !!

No - the component of your speed directly downwards (a function of gravity) is still the same, but the sideways component is more.

The iimpact probably feels less heavy at speed because you still have a lot of adrenalin that is keeping you focussed on what you are going to slide into next....

and if you fall dircectly downwards, you only hit the floor. Not the floor, then the signpost, then the kerb, etc...

[Big Dog]

The lack of armor is what put me off draggins. For around town and commuting, I was more worried about impact injuries to joints than scraping along the road. Thinking about what my minor drop would have been like without the knee armor is pretty scary.

I rode plenty of times without the pants on when I was just going short distances, not any more.

And that is why the Draggins. I will wear them without thinking. Left with just the touring pants and leather to choose from a lot of days I would have to go without to be as mobile as I want to be. Better some protection than none.

[DrunkenMistake]

This works well for inner city riding but it does have some drawbacks and little things to consider.

I don't have enough suspension settings to cope with all the weight.

I don't have to worry about trying to pick the bike up after a bin because I cant pick myself up.

It uses a whole tube of Autosol metal polish just to keep it looking so good.

Coping with biker envy and one finger KB waves can be a little discouraging.

Its really important to turn up for a group run with a full tank and empty bladder.

on the plus side

After an off the low friction resistance means I have a long enough slide to phone 111 for help AND phone my wife I could be late home and not to worry.

The negative part is that it gets as hot as an old car bonnet being towed along Muriwai beach!

The big sword is optional for an alternative use on weekends, BONUS!!

Somehow i dont see the helmet been a legal alternitive but I mean the sword could be useful to discarage some of those cagers from atempting to share your lane

[carver]

I have said before that new riders should be forced to do a weeks community service in the motorcycle accident ward as a condition for getting their license.

If anything can convince you of your NOT being bulletproof, that will be it.

forced?????

[R-Soul]

forced?????

Believe me, its not something you want to do voluntarily...

[Antonio]

Sorry to hear that some irresponsible citizen which happened to be a biker ruined your day,

this should be a good lesson for him and others.

[Big Dog]

Believe me, its not something you want to do voluntarily...

Does that mean 4x4 owners will have to view an A&E until a mangle pedestrian, cyclist or biker comes int with bull bar imprints?

[DEATH_INC.]

In all the offs I've had, I've never had gear cause me any injuries. I have however had a couple/few where the lack of it didn't save my ass when it would have. I have also had injuries where BETTER gear would have lessened them too.
Look, you guys can make all the stupid excuses you want for not wearing it, but, think HONESTLY about what was said in the first post and who it will affect.
And think about the repercussions of wearing ATGATT, and who that will affect.
It's not rocket science really.

[MSTRS:Me]

It's not rocket science ...

Like seatbelts in cars.