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    I was hangin out with my beautiful white german shepherd the other day. He is only 4, but I got very emoional thinking I would probably only have another 5 or so years with him. Just the thought broke my heart. I know that when he is old, unwell and unhappy, it's going to be the hardest decision of my life what to do about it.

    It seems like such an unfair decision. But I guess, when the time comes, you know in your heart what the right decision is, for the right reasons. My dogs are my absolute world. Have never owned on before these 2, and already feel heavy about them aging. They are my babies.

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    What a dumb question TOTO.
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    I let mine die of old age in agony!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    What a dumb question TOTO.
    Good point. What would Dorathy have done?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mully
    The mind boggles.

    Unless you were pillioning the sheep - which is more innocent I suppose (but no less baffling)

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    After years of vet nursing, I have been present when many beloved pets were euthanised. Pet owners agonise about making the decision. The selfish choice is to ignore your pet's pain and misery, to put off making the hard call about euthanasia. Owners who put the pet's quality of life first, before there own needs for their old friend to stay around a bit longer, don't deserve to have a guilt trip put on them.

    I can't remember a single case of anyone putting a pet to sleep because of failing sight, or stiff joints, toto. Most cases involve painful conditions where there is no ability to cure, such as invasive cancers. Or horrific "hit by car" injuries where survival will be measured in agonising minutes, and a lethal injection ends the suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stirts View Post
    I killed one of my Budgies as a kid. Had a secondhand cage and the latch to keep the door open was broken. I felt sorry for the two Budgies being stuck in a cage all day, so I tied a bit of string to the door to keep it open so they could fly around my room while I was at school. Came home to a dead little Snowie, he was hanging upside down with the string wrapped around his little leg. I cried my heart out! I placed him in a wooden box that I had made at Woodwork, dug a hole in the back yard and buried him.
    Oh that is terrible, string/rope and animals is never a good idea. Some neighbours of mine had sheep that were no respecters of fences. The neighbours thought it a good idea to put rope around the worst offenders necks and tether them to the fence in the paddocks. I got up one morning to the sight of a sheep hanging by its neck just outside my kitchen window. It had slipped down a bit of a drop off and hug itself
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    A joke i always think about when putting animals down...


    On the first day, God created the dog and said: Sit all day by the door of your house and bark at anyone who comes in or walks past. For this, I will give you a life span of twenty years.'
    The dog said: 'That's a long time to be barking. How about only ten years and I'll give you back the other ten?'
    So God agreed.
    On the second day, God created the monkey and said: Entertain people, do tricks, and make them laugh. For this, I'll give you a 20 year life span.'
    The monkey said: 'Monkey tricks for 20 years? That's a pretty long time to perform. How about I give you back 10 like the dog did?'
    And God agreed.
    On the third day, God created the cow and said: You must go into the field with the farmer all day long and suffer under the sun, have calves and give milk to support the farmer's family. For this, I will give you a life span of 60 years.'
    The cow said: 'That's kind of a tough life you want me to live for 60 years. How about twenty and I'll give back the other forty?'
    And God agreed again.
    On the fourth day, God created man and said: Eat, sleep, play, marry and enjoy your life. For this, I'll give you 20 years.'
    But man said: 'Only twenty years? Could you possibly give me my 20, the 40 the cow gave back, the 10 the monkey gave back, and the 10 the dog gave back, that makes 80, okay?'
    Okay,' said God, 'You asked for it.'
    So that is why for our first 20 years we eat, sleep, play and enjoy ourselves. For the next 40 years we slave in the sun to support our family. For the next 10 years we do monkey tricks to entertain the grandchildren. And for the last 10 years we sit on the front porch and bark at everyone.
    Life has now been explained to you.




    But yes. I miss a muched loved Pappilion.. Cute litte critter he was.. But one day he just lost his marbles.. Barking at random times of the night, Pissing all over the place, Would get lost in the house he had been living in for 18 or so years etc etc.. We eventually locked him up to one place in the lounge with a wooden floor so we could easily clean up after him.. But Age just got the better of him and we had to put him down. Mum held onto him and we all cried like a pack of babies who hadnt been fed yet.. :'( One of the Sadest dies of our lives.. Had him cremated and he is now in my Woodwork box i made to an absolute top standard with his Winter jacket folded up and placed over the ashes..

    Man this shit isnt on.. Everybody Hurts by REM is playing on the radio.. Almost had a tear in meh eye writing that!
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    humane |(h)yoōˈmān|
    adjective
    1 having or showing compassion or benevolence : regulations ensuring the humane treatment of animals.
    • inflicting the minimum of pain : humane methods of killing.
    DERIVATIVES
    humanely adverb
    humaneness noun
    ORIGIN late Middle English : the earlier form of human , restricted to the senses above in the 18th cent.

    Thesaurus
    humane
    adjective
    the humane treatment of animals compassionate, kind, considerate, understanding, sympathetic, tolerant; lenient, forbearing, forgiving, merciful, mild, gentle, tender, clement, benign, humanitarian, benevolent, charitable; warmhearted, tenderhearted, softhearted. antonym cruel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Oh that is terrible, string/rope and animals is never a good idea.
    Yes it was a hard lesson to learn, I was a 10yr old animal killer
    No body move... I dropped my brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    What about when its some fixable (but expensive) problem...
    What about if the same amount of health care funding was available to pets? So then they're pretty much in the same boat as us. The only difference would be the legality of putting them down and maybe it would be slightly easier putting them down as opposed to a human.

    One of our dogs needs injections for it's shoddy hips (1/mth $25 each) or a hip replacement. If it was funded, I'd replace the hips. But the injections lube him up enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    What a dumb question TOTO.
    Personally I don't actually think it's a dumb question. I think if money was no object, let's face it, less pets would be put down. For old aged pets, if pain killers were affordable for pets (the same as humans) more pets would be live out there lives more "naturally".

    I've had to put down a dog. She was running around the day I put her down. Which was both good and bad. Good because she had a good last day, but bad because it made me think twice whether I should have done it or not. She was pretty much losing the plot and incontinent among a long list of other things. But on her good days she acted like a puppy and ran around with the others like a nutta. So tough when you have to hold them down and look into their eyes to say goodbye. They know something is up.

    In a perfect would it wouldn't have to happen and I would very much prefer it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Because you don't want to see it suffer and if you leave it living you risk being charged with cruelty to an animal.
    You'd do the same for some person you love, if you were allowed to...
    That makes sence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Because you love them. Sometimes love means rising above selfishness and realising the final gift your love can give is the gift of release



    You are young, when you are old you will understand
    Yep, I can understand that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I would respectfully suggest that you get some more life experience before you make statements like this in such a pejorative manner.
    You are most probably correct. Reading the serious answers to my question, does in fact make sence. My prejorative manner reflects my dissaproval of taking a life of a live creature I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    What about when its some fixable (but expensive) problem...
    A valid point, hadn't taught about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by duckonin View Post
    OLD age is Old age your body is shutting down that is the time bugs like to attack us all, if young and fixable then that would be another decision.
    You see, with hmans we can communicate exactly what we feel. If a person is in pain they can let others know. How can we be sure that animal is in pain however ? What if the dogy likes sitting in his corner coz he is had enough of chasing sticks all his life. How can I be sure that I would be doing the right thing by putting him down ?

    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    because they taste good.
    You are holding the whole class back

    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones View Post
    They can't charge me with beastiality if there's no animal!

    Dead pets don't speak.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    What a dumb question TOTO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okey Dokey View Post
    After years of vet nursing, I have been present when many beloved pets were euthanised. Pet owners agonise about making the decision. The selfish choice is to ignore your pet's pain and misery, to put off making the hard call about euthanasia. Owners who put the pet's quality of life first, before there own needs for their old friend to stay around a bit longer, don't deserve to have a guilt trip put on them.

    I can't remember a single case of anyone putting a pet to sleep because of failing sight, or stiff joints, toto. Most cases involve painful conditions where there is no ability to cure, such as invasive cancers. Or horrific "hit by car" injuries where survival will be measured in agonising minutes, and a lethal injection ends the suffering.
    I'm still feeling a bit guilty about Spotty. She had what was suspected as cancer. I didn't have the heart to have her euthanased. She died in the house.... hopefully where she knew she was safe. I just hope she didn't suffer. It's a VERY hard call to make
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    I'm still feeling a bit guilty about Spotty. She had what was suspected as cancer. I didn't have the heart to have her euthanased. She died in the house.... hopefully where she knew she was safe. I just hope she didn't suffer. It's a VERY hard call to make
    Don't make yourself feel bad about it! She had that security of her place and your love. You were caring for her. It is impossible to discuss a particular case on the internet, but you would have been aware of her condition, and maybe she died before you needed to make that choice.

    And it IS a hard call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOTO View Post
    What score do I get - 8.5/10 ?
    10/10 for either trolling or asking such a stupid question.
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