Who's in the wrong?

[DesmoDAZ]

::Nearly 80kph in a 50 zone!, busses, cars, side streets, kids, driveways,....... Excuse me but F*#k off noddy.bash

[enigma51]

Yup. If you're dead, or your bike is fucked, you were wrong. Figure it out, do the maths, and do something different.

There is also the situation of the law - you have to be able to stop in the clear distance ahead of you, you must ride to the conditions, and you must not conduct yourself in a careless or dangerous fashion. All three I'd say the courts would have something to say about.

Steve

This coming from the retart who said if someone pulls out in front of him he will aim for the driver .... or passenger door?

You fuckwit shut the fuck up!

[enigma51]

Sorry guys The point I was trying to make was if you're speeding on a suburban road then eventually ya gotta expect someone to pull out in front of ya. How it ends well heck thats up to luck.

And that frosty is why you should race your on race on the road

[swbarnett]

The road rules are a set of conventions that you accept when you get your license (or at least you say you do). It is legally reasonable (although pretty stupid in today's driving environment) for any given driver to expect that all other road users will adhere to these conventions.

If you drive/ride outide these conventions then, legally, the onus is on you to ensure your own safety. This is why I've had no accidents in the past 3.5 years and 8 years in the 80's and 90's commuting in Auckland traffic.

In short - the rider is at fault because they were riding outside legally accepted norms and could not compensate. The fact that a tar snake ruined their braking effort only goes to show that they did not have an appropriate awareness of the road surface under them.