View Poll Results: Would you live in NZ if there was no financial system?

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  • Yes

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  • Don't Care

    7 5.93%
  • Yes, but it will never happen

    28 23.73%
  • No, because it will never happen

    24 20.34%
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If you go out and cut down a tree, you get first dibs on what to do with the wood from that Tree.

    Simple innit.
    whose tree .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    whose tree .
    Depends on who is asking....

    A system that encourages thievery
    And once cut Down, it becomes your tree.

    Then you can use the wood to build a Fence, and claim some Land.

    Then you can be truly British, see your neighbor with a better bit of land and go over to his patch, Crown yourself Emperor/Empress, claim his patch as part of your empire, and then pillage it for resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Yes I did, Money Velocity.
    No it is impossible
    10 marbles in the beginning
    If you charge interest
    Where does that 11th marble come from
    Thin air .....or the fed

    It the 11 marble has to be fictional and the basis of debt



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    No it is impossible
    10 marbles in the beginning
    If you charge interest
    Where does that 11th marble come from
    Thin air .....or the fed

    It the 11 marble has to be fictional and the basis of debt



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    If you pay me 3 Marbles for IT support, and I pay you back a Marble - I have paid you a total of 11 Marbles - Yes? That is where your 11th Marble comes from.

    In return, you now have a net wealth of 11 Marbles (8 Marbles + 3 Marbles worth of goods and services)

    If we extend the Metaphor to the Banking system (as it exists) then the Banks create the 11th Marble in recognition of the increased net wealth - Aka Inflation.

    Money Velocity. Generation of Wealth.

    It's simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    The solution however removes Personal Choice - which does exist under the current system, thus it is not the current system, is it?

    It's a different system - called Charity.
    Of course it's the current system. If the charity doesn't step up, they get nothing. So they're actually being given the extra choice for free. Why are you always so negative? I give you outs all over the place and you miss every single one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord
    If you go out and cut down a tree, you get first dibs on what to do with the wood from that Tree.

    Simple innit.
    Sorry. I planted that tree, it's mine.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Figure it out for yourself ... it ain't hard. As a starter for ya ya lazy fuck, do you think any group of people should receive better resources than another?
    So you don't know. Glad we cleared that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I've read all I care to, unless you have new information on the subject - which was the point of me asking you to ask the questions in the first place - to get new information.
    Your limited reading shows.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Of course it's the current system. If the charity doesn't step up, they get nothing.
    And?

    Oh! I'm supposed to Care that they don't.

    Error 404.

    Sympathy not found.

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    So they're actually being given the extra choice for free.
    Do they get to choose the Food that they receive? Or do they only have the choice of accepting what they are given (which isn't really a choice at all)?

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Why are you always so negative?
    Part of my Endearing personality.

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I give you outs all over the place and you miss every single one of them.
    Think about that, and assume that I didn't miss them.

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Sorry. I planted that tree, it's mine.
    Sure. Prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Your limited reading shows.
    Well, It wouldn't be so limited if you actually posted some answers once in a while......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    So you don't know. Glad we cleared that up.
    I do. So does my 13yr old daughter. So no, not even close to being cleared up. But i can see why you're so desperate to believe that.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    So you don't know. Glad we cleared that up.
    Rep, Spread etc. you know the Drill.

    QFT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Do they get to choose the Food that they receive? Or do they only have the choice of accepting what they are given (which isn't really a choice at all)?

    Think about that, and assume that I didn't miss them.

    Sure. Prove it.
    They choose to go to receive the food. I don't think they care what it is, given that they're hungry, else I'm sure they'd go somewhere else.

    I have considered that.

    I just told you it was mine.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I do. So does my 13yr old daughter. So no, not even close to being cleared up. But i can see why you're so desperate to believe that.
    Maybe she can explain then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If you pay me 3 Marbles for IT support, and I pay you back a Marble - I have paid you a total of 11 Marbles - Yes? That is where your 11th Marble comes from.

    In return, you now have a net wealth of 11 Marbles (8 Marbles + 3 Marbles worth of goods and services)

    If we extend the Metaphor to the Banking system (as it exists) then the Banks create the 11th Marble in recognition of the increased net wealth - Aka Inflation.

    Money Velocity. Generation of Wealth.

    It's simple.
    No you cannot create the 11th out of nothing
    Try it ... get a cup put 10 coins in
    ..now try and take 11 out

    Let me know when u succeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    No you cannot create the 11th out of nothing
    Try it ... get a cup put 10 coins in
    ..now try and take 11 out

    Let me know when u succeed

    sent for a divine source
    But I can create/provide something to the equivalent value of 1 coin from nothing.

    Your example only holds true if you ignore that part.

    Either you don't fully understand or the more likely reason - you are deliberately misrepresenting it to bolster your argument
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