My first poll for the NZ public

[Brian d marge]

Negative entropy. Quantity thereof.

And it's a better definition than any you've ever dreamed up.

Says u who has demonstrated his lack of knowledge of entropy

And did I use the term negative entropy...or are u making things up again



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[Brian d marge]

Wrong. Economics is about predicting human behaviour. It has nothing to do with money.

You dismiss it as simple. Yet you fail to understand that humans are driven by self interest. Or maybe you dismiss that because under rbe we all hold hands and work together for the common good. Again. Is there a plan? Or blind hope someone else will figure it out?

Origin: 1585–95; (< Middle French economique) < Latin oeconomicus < Greek oikonomikós relating to household management, equivalent to oikonóm(os) steward (oîko(s) house + nómos manager) + -ikos -ic

Wtf
Yes it's related after all it's a man made structure

But the transfer of wealth has nowt to do with predicting human behavior
It may may the transfer more efficient or lucrative

Nice try

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[Jin]

It would need to be policed somehow. Also what if you put in way more effort than others? human nature would soon stop you doing that when you see others doing sweet fa and getting rewarded the same.

Exactly right. Incentives matter. With no incentive most will refuse to do anything or the bare minimum. Then the guys in charge of rbe will have to resort to force in order to make people produce things.

With that in mind, I'm stunned that a capitalist could understand so much about how and why RBE will work. As a concept, I call it our EOD (Every Other Day).



The hard part is realising that everything we need already exists and that because money creates scarcity the resources that exist cannot be "consumed". It's not that the resources don't exist in order to do things, because they clearly do, and it's not like there aren't needs that people need met (working or not). Choice is how resources will be allocated. Choice will also determine what resources are produced. That choice will be made on purpose and what is to be produced will be decided using direct democracy i.e. we all get to vote on what should be produced. How that list will be compiled will likely involve a discussion with industry in regards to what it needs for the future etc... The reason for this is that the planet is finite and we want to avoid the resource scarcity of the past and at least try to keep the place a little tidier.

That's A way to do it. There are other mechanisms to achieve the same thing.

Id say the hard part is you figuring out this is all bs. Do you include motorcycles as a resource? Honda Yamaha BMW make bikes because they want money thats why they do it. What kind of cars were produced by communist ussr? Can you understand the baker bakes his bread out of his pure self interest but serves the public interest? Adam Smith?

Dont bother im out. Cant tolerate this retardedness any longer.

[Ocean1]

Says u who has demonstrated his lack of knowledge of entropy

And did I use the term negative entropy...or are u making things up again



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From someone who believes wealth can only come from debt I'd count your perceptions of my knowledge of absolutely anything as completely irrelevant to any real-world evaluation.

And no, I did. And if you'd actually checked you'd have found that I'm far from the first to use physical laws to define economic phenomena.
http://www.springer.com/gp/book/9781441993649

https://www.amazon.com/Entropy-Law-E...onomic+Process

Now fuck off and educate yourself, you're embarrassing.

[Akzle]

It would need to be policed somehow. Also what if you put in way more effort than others? human nature would soon stop you doing that when you see others doing sweet fa and getting rewarded the same.

ok. so. joe P darkie sees CEOs and lawerjew types (those who do SFA and get paid fuckloads)... and decides not to go fishing today?

[mashman]

Id say the hard part is you figuring out this is all bs. Do you include motorcycles as a resource? Honda Yamaha BMW make bikes because they want money thats why they do it. What kind of cars were produced by communist ussr? Can you understand the baker bakes his bread out of his pure self interest but serves the public interest? Adam Smith?

Dont bother im out. Cant tolerate this retardedness any longer.

I understand all that you have said given that I was a damned good capitalist for 37 years. You have half an understanding of the discussion. I have the whole understanding, because I understand both the financial economy and RBE. Therefore, you calling bs is simply because too dumb to understand RBE. It's not even hard to understand. Stop scaring yourself with the reds under the bed fear porn, coz that's all you're doing, reinforcing your own fears.

You're a retard? You should have stated that up front and I would have spared you the humiliation of exposing just how dumb you are. Mebees you can get some pills? Hey, mebees the scientists that RBE produces will care enough to make a pill for ya, and ya won't have to pay for the development etc... coz they'll be making the pills to help people, not make money. As such, anyone waiting on any of those really expensive drugs that exist but are simply too expensive for a country or individual to afford, will get them for free and won't be hamstrung because you don't give a shit. Grow the fuck up son.

[mashman]

It would need to be policed somehow. Also what if you put in way more effort than others? human nature would soon stop you doing that when you see others doing sweet fa and getting rewarded the same.

Why would it need to be policed?

So you're denigrating charity and voluntary workers then? Huh, I didn't have you pegged as a stupid lazy fuck... hey ho.

[TheDemonLord]

So what you're saying is, and quite emphatically, is that you haven't got a clue what RBE is... despite being told otherwise by one who does understand RBE ... but by all means, carry on being wronger than a wrong thing.

Right Right.

(despite your own literature having some almost verbatim ideas)

Also, the KKK aren't Racist, cause they said so

Also, Catholics aren't Homophobic, cause they said so

Again, it's funny how often Zealots sound the same.

[mashman]

Right Right.

(despite your own literature having some almost verbatim ideas)

Also, the KKK aren't Racist, cause they said so

Also, Catholics aren't Homophobic, cause they said so

Again, it's funny how often Zealots sound the same.

What literature?

[TheDemonLord]

Sorry... don't you like your own tactics being used against you? Kinda makes you more than just a hypocrite.

I quote you in full and if you answer a question, I generally don't edit out the answer to make it seem like you didn't answer - but nice try 2/10.

Yup. Bad loan as you could never repay the marble you said you would.

but I did - you keep missing that part, yah know, the part about Agency etc. It's kinda important.

Where the services accepted or did ghe want the marble? See, coz the way I read it, he wanted the marble... in fact he went to great lengths in order to state that he wanted the marble.

You can't always get what you waaaaaaaant - The Rolling Stones

In the example - Money = Marbles, Yes? In which case, I traded my Time and Skills for the Marble, and then used the Marble to pay the debt - His net wealth has increased by the value of 1 Marble.

If we extend the Metaphor to an actual bank, at this point the bank would mint more currency to account for the increase in wealth.

Instead you tried to snakeoil yourself out of paying the debt that was owed.

Yes, I'm such a bad person. Using my Skills and Agency to get things I want, How silly of me... Afterall I'm sure that personal enterprise is punishable by death under Commu- I mean an RBE

You're a liar and a cheat ...

Well, you can take the Englishman out of England....

Edity: and a cocksucker

Seriously - Is it some requirement to be a Conspiracy theorist that you are a repressed Homosexual? I've got no problems if you like the Man-Sausage, more power too you.


Or is it to be a Conspiracy theorist you just have to be good at Swallowing without question?

Wait, I think I might have something there....

[TheDemonLord]

What literature?

DING DING DING!

Called it.

note - yes I'm using Wikipedia, but since I know you will ignore it, there is no point in using anything more authoritative.

Predictable to a T.

[mashman]

DING DING DING!

Called it.



Predictable to a T.

Seriously, what literature?

[TheDemonLord]

You still didn't answer the question, again. Too busy trying to weasel your way out of it coz you got your arse handed to you by a 13 yr old.

I did answer the question:

Those that use their agency to acquire said resources get first dibs.

So, the Miners who go down the mine - they get first dibs on the minerals
The forestry worker who cuts down a tree - they get first dibs on the wood.

But seeing as we are talking about being owned by Children - my 18 month old has realised that if she wants to play with a toy in one part of the room (that she can't move) and she wants to play with a different toy in another part of the room, then she has to choose - she understands the basic concept of Scarcity and loss of oppertunity - so How about that, getting your arse handed to you by a Toddler?

[TheDemonLord]

No, I'm after equity, so, wrong again dickhead.

Equity of Oppertunity or Equity of Outcome?

[TheDemonLord]

Seriously, what literature?

The bits where the ideas expressed in the Website that Emblazons your signature are almost word for word ideas expressed by communist thinkers.