My first poll for the NZ public

[scumdog]

Still waiting for this human nature thing to be explained coherently.

You need to meet more of these humans - 'speciall the ones I meet.

[Ocean1]

What I want to know is what happens on planet mashman when an operative does start to show some human nature/instinct/personality. Will there be "equalizers" in scary uniforms to dumb them down or make them disappear.

There's been mention of a "committee"...

[mashman]

You need to meet more of these humans - 'speciall the ones I meet.

I lived amongst those humans for 6 years in an ex-gangster street of Glasgow.

[Brian d marge]

There's been mention of a "committee"...

the most insidious form of Human, those that form "committees"

Stephen

[Drew]

the most insidious form of Human, those that form "committees"

Stephen

I heard that lots of them are bloggers...Oh, sorry.

[mashman]

Something written by someone on an entirely unrelated subject that sums up how easy it would be to change the world.

"One of the major roots of these worldly problems is the concept of hierarchy. Everywhere we look in the world, we have (usually male-dominated) hierarchical systems of organization. Hierarchy is an insidious, disempowering system of authority, obedience and enslavement that we MUST transcend.

Transcending hierarchy is a process of self-liberation / clearing, gaining self-knowledge, gaining knowledge of Universal and Earthly Natural Law, and exercising our Sovereign Will. First, we have to KNOW through and through that we are fully connected extensions of the Divine Infinite Source of all creation. When we know that, not just think it on an intellectual level, we realize that there is NO legitimate authority outside of ourselves. There is only inner authority and self-governance, which when guided by understanding of Universal Law prohibits us from instigating actions that would harm another.

Enlightened Self-Governance and adherence to Universal Law is the foundation for a free society. Only with this foundation in place will we be able to avoid the ego trap of exerting "authority" over others to control and regulate their behaviors which do not harm anyone else.

Only through Enlightened Self-Governance will we be able to build an entirely new type of society that is self-organized to solve problems and see to the needs of the many as a genuine expression of the desire to cooperate and make a world that benefits everyone. This has to be an ever-evolving, co-creative process that we will continually discover as we engage it.

Every idea needs to be tested and applied where it is willing to be accepted in an open-source manner through voluntary participation of all individuals involved in a non-hierarchical, uni-level, self-organizing process. This requires an entirely new way of thinking, organizing and taking action, and all old models of centralized, top-down authority need to be abandoned, because as we have already seen, any attempts to impose a single "best system" onto the world will always result in oppression and will ultimately fail.

We have within us the potential to FREE every single human being from the shackles of enslaving systems of hierarchy and external authority, to work together and create solutions to provide the basic needs of food, water, power, shelter, clothing, transportation and knowledge to EVERYONE on the planet. Creating self-generating systems to support all of these needs is totally achievable, but only if we can cooperate as sovereign individuals who respect the rights and boundaries of others.

Such a shift in our world depends on all of us to know that we are Sovereign, to proclaim our Sovereignty, delete our slave-think programming, and then to work together in cooperation as Sovereign individuals with a common goal of maximal empowerment of everyone on the planet."

The system must be changed in order to offer the people a reason to change.

[Akzle]

The system must be changed in order to offer the people a reason to change.

did you add that bit?

The system must go.
The system is the manifestation of common irresponsibility. I view as a disease.

People need to find health, mentally, emotionally, societalarily, noundjectively.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeed!

[Ocean1]

We have within us the potential to FREE every single human being from the shackles of enslaving systems of hierarchy and external authority, to work together and create solutions to provide the basic needs of food, water, power, shelter, clothing, transportation and knowledge to EVERYONE on the planet.

Damned right. So, when is all the dole bludgers going to take it upon their own recognisance to jet back from Brizvegas and carry their share of this wonderful utopia?

Only, EVERYONE ELSE on the planet’s been waiting a while, now.

[mashman]

did you add that bit?

The system must go.
The system is the manifestation of common irresponsibility. I view as a disease.

People need to find health, mentally, emotionally, societalarily, noundjectively.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeed!

I did add that bit and yup, the system must go... unfortunately it will need to be weeded out and not chopped off at the roots. Making it irrelevant to people's lives has the same effect as removing it entirely... but with less of a global impact. The rest of the world will follow suit and I shall be heralded as the man that saved the world... and I will be so revered I will be set above all others to wallow in bitches and cocaine until then end of time. So sayeth the Gord.

Damned right. So, when is all the dole bludgers going to take it upon their own recognisance to jet back from Brizvegas and carry their share of this wonderful utopia?

Only, EVERYONE ELSE on the planet’s been waiting a while, now.

... Einstein classes you as insane. I'm inclined to agree.

[MVnut]

Some see the idea a pure pie in the sky. But i'm curious. There are 50,000,000 registered people (give or take) around the world that agree that a financial system is not necessary. Sorry if I've left any options out.

I hope this is a joke

[mashman]

I hope this is a joke

Why?..............

[Brian d marge]

Damned right. So, when is all the dole bludgers going to take it upon their own recognisance to jet back from Brizvegas and carry their share of this wonderful utopia?

Only, EVERYONE ELSE on the planet’s been waiting a while, now.

You do realize that over half of the people receiving public money are the oldies and those dole bludgers only account for just over a 1/4

So if those bludgers were to stop it would save how much >? .....

You really do fall hook line and sinker for anything the TV says

Stephen

[Akzle]

You do realize that over half of the people receiving public money are the oldies and those dole bludgers only account for just over a 1/4

So if those bludgers were to stop it would save how much >? .....

You really do fall hook line and sinker for anything the TV says

Stephen

whatsmore the largest chunk of public purse pays politicians. Dunno about you, but i dun rekn they earn it.
Also. Name 10 of the cunts. Just try. Theres two hunnit something portfolios, near as many seats.
Guess what minimum salary (thats before free taxis, air travel, hotels, food etc, y'know, tax free fringe benefits) is?
We're talking jewmoney here. Heaps.

and youre going to moan about doleys?
Ignorant, man, and fuken dumb. At least they serve to keep inflation down, what economic benefit in politicians??

[Ocean1]

You do realize that over half of the people receiving public money are the oldies...

Which is entirely appropriate, given that they're responsible for most of the tax revenue in the first place.

Wiki:
Baby Boomers control over 80% of personal financial assets and more than 50% of discretionary spending power., July 2011 They are responsible for more than half of all consumer spending, buy 77% of all prescription drugs, 61% of OTC medication and 80% of all leisure travel.

and those dole bludgers only account for just over a 1/4

So if those bludgers were to stop it would save how much >? .....

Actually, well over half of NZers recieve more in benefits than they contribute in tax.

So the answer to your question is fucking shitloads.

Enough, in fact to pay for those that actually need help. Y'know, the ones WINZ and ACC routinely deny help because they can't afford it?

You really do fall hook line and sinker for anything the TV says

I don't watch TV.

If I did would I be as wrong about shit as you routinely are?

[Brian d marge]

Which is entirely appropriate, given that they're responsible for most of the tax revenue in the first place.

Wiki:
Baby Boomers control over 80% of personal financial assets and more than 50% of discretionary spending power., July 2011 They are responsible for more than half of all consumer spending, buy 77% of all prescription drugs, 61% of OTC medication and 80% of all leisure travel.



Actually, well over half of NZers recieve more in benefits than they contribute in tax.

So the answer to your question is fucking shitloads.

Enough, in fact to pay for those that actually need help. Y'know, the ones WINZ and ACC routinely deny help because they can't afford it?



I don't watch TV.

If I did would I be as wrong about shit as you routinely are?

ookaaaay

So the people that buil their wealth through the boom times , and paid their taxes get a pension ( as it should be )

But then the rules changed

user pays etc ,,,,,,student loans etc

This effectively denys a/ the next generation to aquire wealth ( either in the form of assest of whatever) Which is what has happened .

Now heres the rub , On the one hand you should be fully entitled to a pension if you have played the game , but on the other hand the next generation should be dealt the same cards as you were ( the cards that allowed you to create the discreasionary spending power)

back in 5 this computer is about to crash

Stephen

keep reading stuff , its very informative