View Poll Results: Would you live in NZ if there was no financial system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    ookaaaay

    So the people that buil their wealth through the boom times , and paid their taxes get a pension ( as it should be )
    Oh, the boom times were just luck, then? Nothing to do with huge improvements in productivity? Fuck all to do with the people actually working during that time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    But then the rules changed

    user pays etc ,,,,,,student loans etc

    This effectively denys a/ the next generation to aquire wealth ( either in the form of assest of whatever) Which is what has happened .
    The fuck it does, those “free” educations were still paid for by those taxpayers. If that “free education” was all it took to create those boom times then how can it be that the cost of education today is some sort of barrier to wealth? Smells like bullshit to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Now heres the rub , On the one hand you should be fully entitled to a pension if you have played the game , but on the other hand the next generation should be dealt the same cards as you were ( the cards that allowed you to create the discreasionary spending power)
    The cards are the same. Produce a dollar’s worth of value and make a dollar. Same now as then. If there’s funding shortfalls for social welfare spending now that didn’t exist then you can blame it on the massive growth in social welfare spending and a lack of productivity to match, fuck all else.
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    Im tapping this out on the phone so ill be brief

    The boom times corrisponded with the demand for wool during the korean war off top of head the gdp per person has dropped ever since

    Yes someone has to pay for education but when the community foots the bill the cost is spread but when the individual pays that person foots the entire amount also living costs which may or may not apply
    Either way the cost for the individual inceases
    Try not to say if they get a job they can pay it back bla blah

    As for funding shortfalls times and costs have changed for a start that dollar doesnt buy so much nowadays
    The bulk of the social welfare ( over half ) as i said is spent on the oldies the ones according to u have the most discretionary spending

    Spend a few min research and take your blinkers off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Im tapping this out on the phone so ill be brief

    The boom times corrisponded with the demand for wool during the korean war off top of head the gdp per person has dropped ever since

    Yes someone has to pay for education but when the community foots the bill the cost is spread but when the individual pays that person foots the entire amount also living costs which may or may not apply
    Either way the cost for the individual inceases
    Try not to say if they get a job they can pay it back bla blah

    As for funding shortfalls times and costs have changed for a startthat dollardoesnt buy so much nowadays
    The bulck of the social welfare ( over half ) as i said is spent on the oldies the ones according to u have themost descretionary spending

    Spend a few min research and take your blinkers off

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    We've just done that shit, repeating the same crap ad nausium don't make it so.

    We've also done the "dollar doesn't buy as much" shit. That's not true either, try to keep up.
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    Yes but form some reason you just refuse to take your blinkers off
    Its like your afraid of what really is going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Yes but form some reason you just refuse to take your blinkers off
    Its like your afraid of what really is going on
    Stephen

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    Nothing wrong with my vision dude. If you want to change my opinion then show me something different, because so far none of your complaints hold water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Nothing wrong with my vision dude.
    I guess rose tinted specs for myopia do serve a purpose after all.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I guess rose tinted specs for myopia do serve a purpose after all.
    You keep 'em dude, they're probably the only thing stopping you from slitting your wrists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    You keep 'em dude, they're probably the only thing stopping you from slitting your wrists.
    That was poor. I'm closer to slitting yours than mine.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post

    We've also done the "dollar doesn't buy as much" shit. That's not true either, try to keep up.
    Not my fault you dont understand inflation

    either that or it doesnt happen in your universe


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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    The whining sounds exactly like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    The whining sounds exactly like you.
    Thanks.....
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    The Auckland Council's $7 billion debt is costing $1 million a day in interest alone.... That sort of pointless shit would become a thing of the past.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    That sort of pointless shit would become a thing of the past.
    Aye, as would the civilisation you dislike so much.

    If Orks is in the hole to the tune of 2 years total revenue then the reason has fuck all to do with too much money, has it? It's to do with spending less than you earn, same trick that fixes every economic issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Aye, as would the civilisation you dislike so much.

    If Orks is in the hole to the tune of 2 years total revenue then the reason has fuck all to do with too much money, has it? It's to do with spending less than you earn, same trick that fixes every economic issue.
    weeeee-eeeellllll son, let me tell you this funny story, about how the "money" you're talking about is actually debt, and that you will never, ever, ever fucking ever repay that shit, because the jews that make money don't make enough for you to have enough to repay.

    have i mentioned the earth-sized spheres of gold? seventy something of the cunts, to repay the debt that's been created with jew "money".


    good luck sunshine.

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