My first poll for the NZ public

**mashman** · 22nd June 2014, 10:36

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

So you don't know the meaning of parochial then.

What an idiot.

Ohhhhhh, so that's what it means. Now I'm not an idiot

**mashman** · 31st August 2014, 08:20

The Money Free Party are on Q+A this morning according to their farsebook page.

**mashman** · 12th September 2014, 11:07

**Ocean1** · 12th September 2014, 18:38

Originally Posted by mashman

Mashland Fantasy

So, which ten thousand lazy fuckwits are you supporting?

**mashman** · 12th September 2014, 18:48

Originally Posted by Ocean1

So, which ten thousand lazy fuckwits are you supporting?

All of you.

**bogan** · 12th September 2014, 18:52

Originally Posted by Ocean1

So, which ten thousand lazy fuckwits are you supporting?

I'm trying to think of any tech breakthroughs that see one person support ten thousand people today, let alone 30 years ago...

**Ocean1** · 12th September 2014, 21:11

Originally Posted by bogan

I'm trying to think of any tech breakthroughs that see one person support ten thousand people today, let alone 30 years ago...

Fuller is one of the few who could probably claim that he produced at least that much technology. But no matter how powerful the tools the likes of him have provided we have made only enough use of them to make ourselves comfortable.

Evolution made us lazy. Is a good trait to have, resting whenever you can in a world where you expend most of the energy a human body can produce just to remain alive. But as eating as much as you can stops being a good survival trait when cheap and plentiful food is available resting as much as you can ceases to be optimal behaviour when you don't actually have to produce anything to survive at all.

Both are behaviours that make us less than we could easily be, and both can be improved the same way: Discipline.

**Brian d marge** · 12th September 2014, 21:22

Originally Posted by bogan

I'm trying to think of any tech breakthroughs that see one person support ten thousand people today, let alone 30 years ago...

6 fish and a few loaves of bread should do it

Been done before

Originally Posted by bogan

I'm trying to think of any tech breakthroughs that see one person support ten thousand people today, let alone 30 years ago...

**mashman** · 12th September 2014, 22:07

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Fuller is one of the few who could probably claim that he produced at least that much technology. But no matter how powerful the tools the likes of him have provided we have made only enough use of them to make ourselves comfortable.

Evolution made us lazy. Is a good trait to have, resting whenever you can in a world where you expend most of the energy a human body can produce just to remain alive. But as eating as much as you can stops being a good survival trait when cheap and plentiful food is available resting as much as you can ceases to be optimal behaviour when you don't actually have to produce anything to survive at all.

Both are behaviours that make us less than we could easily be, and both can be improved the same way: Discipline.

Primarily due to financial constraint.

Bullshit. Not all are lazy by any means. Humans wanna play, not rest... the downside is that it's fuckin expensive to play and there are only so many hours in the day... and limited "holidays"... and there's always the bills to pay... meh. I have no problem with people eating themselves to death.

Aye, that's the best thing about human behaviour, it changes according to the environment that fosters it. The behaviour that the financial system invokes is not pretty at all. Ditch it and we may well see a seasonably adjusted rise in the ratio of individuals to support personel. I'm pretty damned certain of it achually. Wish you were here.

**bogan** · 12th September 2014, 22:18

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Fuller is one of the few who could probably claim that he produced at least that much technology. But no matter how powerful the tools the likes of him have provided we have made only enough use of them to make ourselves comfortable.

Evolution made us lazy. Is a good trait to have, resting whenever you can in a world where you expend most of the energy a human body can produce just to remain alive. But as eating as much as you can stops being a good survival trait when cheap and plentiful food is available resting as much as you can ceases to be optimal behaviour when you don't actually have to produce anything to survive at all.

Both are behaviours that make us less than we could easily be, and both can be improved the same way: Discipline.

Yeh that is just it though, those tech breakthrough are tools, and still need someone employed to wield them.

Agreed, I think a society made up predominantly of people who do fuck all would be quite detrimental to that society, not from a lack of work output but flow on effects of laziness like stupidity, and moral decay.

**Ocean1** · 13th September 2014, 16:27

Originally Posted by bogan

Agreed, I think a society made up predominantly of people who do fuck all would be quite detrimental to that society, not from a lack of work output but flow on effects of laziness like stupidity, and moral decay.

You don't think we're there yet?

**bogan** · 13th September 2014, 17:09

Originally Posted by Ocean1

You don't think we're there yet?

Nah, predominantly is a bit strong of a word for where we are at just at the moment.

**Ocean1** · 13th September 2014, 19:30

Originally Posted by bogan

Nah, predominantly is a bit strong of a word for where we are at just at the moment.

If you measure productivity by total revenue earned minus total consumption then in NZ today you get 55% consuming more than they earn.

Isn't that predominant?