View Poll Results: Would you live in NZ if there was no financial system?

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  • Yes

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  • No

    24 20.34%
  • Unsure

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  • Don't Care

    7 5.93%
  • Yes, but it will never happen

    28 23.73%
  • No, because it will never happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Not compared to the power of a well grounded mind.
    They should teach that shit at school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    If I'm not relying on it, then other things will take the place of said money enjoyment.
    Good to know
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    They should teach that shit at school.
    They did at mine, perhaps you weren't paying attention at yours...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Child poverty action group's expectations?
    They expect the Parents in low income familys should be able to buy their booze/smokes ... and ... still have money to feed the pokie machines ... and their kids ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Good to know
    Indeed, it's always good to know about diversifying your investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    There's a few solutions in that area that just amount to trickle down economics. Raise min wage, money goes from employers (who have to make a profit) to employees; tax incentives or 0 tax bracket just goes from tax earners (like the employer) to those employees again. I think the advantage in not going the min wage route is it allows that lowest skill bracket to be paid what the job is worth, encouraging workers in that bracket to better apply themselves and move up the ladder. Min wagers seem to stagnate in jobs because they struggle to get out of the min wage bracket. 0 tax bracket is certainly simpler, but I think the opt-in nature of tax incentives might make it an easier sell to the politicans...
    Oh aye, there's a bunch of ways the productive can subsidise the unproductive. Pretty much any method other than the current "tax the middle so hard you have to subsidise most of the population" is defensible by one socialist flavour or another. The current system is just the natural cluster fuck resulting from having that same majority decide who gets subsidies.

    Maybe one day someone who actually recognises where all the resources come from will make a fair case for who gets them. No holding my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    They did at mine, perhaps you weren't paying attention at yours...
    Thank fuck I wasn't given that you're the poster boy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Indeed, it's always good to know about diversifying your investments.
    They should teach that shit at school too.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Thank fuck I wasn't given that you're the poster boy.



    They should teach that shit at school too.
    Would have thought, happy, educated, productive, wealthy, and generous made good poster qualities...

    They do that too
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    They should teach that shit at school too.
    Hang on, message coming through from Jacque Fresco: "You traitorous swine!!!"

    But seriously, they probably should be teaching things along those lines as well as the usual curriculum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Would have thought, happy, educated, productive, wealthy, and generous made good poster qualities...

    They do that too
    That's why I prefer Akzle's posts to yours.

    Generally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Hang on, message coming through from Jacque Fresco: "You traitorous swine!!!"

    But seriously, they probably should be teaching things along those lines as well as the usual curriculum.
    I reckon he'd accept that it'd level the playing field somewhat

    Aye. Someone posted a rap of a school kid explaining something similar, amongst other things. Quite informative.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    That's why I prefer Akzle's posts to yours.

    Generally.
    Seems a demonstrably innacurate supposition, but you do have a penchant for those I've noticed...

    Have you convinced your family that money free is a good idea yet? or is that still an off limits discussion at the diner table?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Seems a demonstrably innacurate supposition, but you do have a penchant for those I've noticed...
    Of course it does, to you.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Of course it does, to you.
    And that second bit? Got anywhere with being the change you wish to see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Got anywhere with being the change you wish to see?
    I Am........
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post

    I reckon he'd accept that it'd level the playing field somewhat

    Aye. Someone posted a rap of a school kid explaining something similar, amongst other things. Quite informative.

    Nope, Fresco's holistic socio-economic system is the antithesis of that afaik.

    I watched that video, very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Nope, Fresco's holistic socio-economic system is the antithesis of that afaik.

    I watched that video, very interesting.
    I would have thought Mr Fresco would rather see kids learning that which is useful for them to prepare for society. Then again, you must know him better

    WTF would kids know eh lol.
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