My first poll for the NZ public

[bogan]

You really are a lazy cunt, aren't you?

That is not my understanding. My understanding is lazy means; Unwilling to do work or make an effort. Because I am prioritising what work to do, and what effort to make, I am not unwilling. The same accusation could be leveled at one who posts such information, ie, they are willing to do the task, but unwilling to do the work and effort required to fact check it before presenting it. I would say it is better leveled in that direction, as the task can be considered only half done, instead of properly done, or not done at all.

[Brian d marge]

Something to think about, we are all here for the same goal, to improve society; the Mahas etc don't bother reading this stuff because they don't desire such change, those who are here, do. So how does that shared goal result in so much abuse? How could abusing each other possibly be a better option than shared understanding?

Depends on the type of abuse
Mashy is banging willie in door in between sunday school classes

Tis a good post . . . So

What is your utopia
How would you improve society

[Brian d marge]

I beleive that is a job for the person posting the information.

Because yes, it is too much hard work. There simply isn't enough hours in the day to research all information presented in such forms, there is time however, to do such research on the information one presents themselves...

Exactly one has a day job


Though if you are interested I will point you in the direction I am travelling

Up to you from that point

[Ocean1]

Ah yes, economists.

We all know how much they love money, don't we?

Do they? What led you to that conclusion?

And if not the usually recognised professional sources for such things then from who do you get your economic data?

A Mechanic?

[mashman]

Exactly one has a day job


Though if you are interested I will point you in the direction I am travelling

Up to you from that point

Aye.

I am.

Fuckim. Wotchu got.

[Brian d marge]

Do they? What led you to that conclusion?

And if not the usually recognised professional sources for such things then from who do you get your economic data?

A Mechanic?

Shoeshine boys are more reliable
When they tell you to buy

Sell

Its worked before

[Brian d marge]

Aye.

I am.

Fuckim. Wotchu got.

When i get home ill post it

Hong kong pushing house prices and Isreal and the bbc

And a low water use garden

[bogan]

Depends on the type of abuse
Mashy is banging willie in door in between sunday school classes

Tis a good post . . . So

What is your utopia
How would you improve society

Bigger picture, figure out a ways make democracy a whole lot less representative and more direct. I'd like to see the use IT infrastructure to allow citizens to vote directly on issues. Voters would still elect representatives to hold their votes (or a proportion thereof) to place by proxy if voters do not place them on their own account.

Smaller picture, ensure my own production exceeds my needs/wants by a great enough amount to support not only my family, but support others prior to them becoming self sufficiently productive so they can in turn support more. That support would be voluntarily given on a by merit basis. As that network expands into a sub-society the needs/wants can be filled more easily due to the culture of sharing/giving that is promoted.

[Ocean1]

How accurate do you reckon the data is given "OurWorldInData does not warrant that the functions or content contained on the website or services will be uninterrupted or error-free, that defects will be corrected" choice."? What's the margin of error used to produce them stats? Does they include outliers?

So you looked hard enough to find the standard legal disclaimer but not hard enough to see that about 20% of the document is dedicated to citing and qualifying the source data for each set?

I know the facts don't agree with your crackpot cargo cult concepts, which is why you never back your story up. Max Rosser apparently does.

[Brian d marge]

When i get home ill post it

Hong kong pushing house prices and Isreal and the bbc

And a low water use garden

Tally sticks edward the 1 and oliver cromwell
Prince william the 9th of the house of hesse hanau and natos practiceof hiring out peace keepers

Lots and lots of stuff. . . . .

[Gadget1]

Ah yes, economists.

We all know how much they love money, don't we?

Economists study the allocation of scarce resources, money is only part of what they do. Moron.

[Gadget1]

Ahhh the old 65 post wonder .........

Not my problem ........ the country need cannon fodder .....

It only took me one post to ascertain your drivel though.

Hoewever, you are getting more coherent.

[mashman]

If shared understanding is your goal, why do you not re-iterate what has been said in the past though? I often find my own understanding of a subject increases when explaining it to others; both from the input of others, and learning to frame such information in a way others will understand. That is why I think very little can be done without a solid base of shared understanding.

Absolutely it is, but when someone perceives another to be abusing them, it is a barrier to sharing information and understanding. You may perceive that as a problem of their own making, but regardless of that, it inhibits the progress of that understanding; and to what end?

You don't think I've done that huh? Big subjects have lots and lots and lots of little ways that they can be approached. Hence why you get so many variations that in their own right stand under an R.B.E. People react to their environment. Remove money issues from peoples lives, house them, feed them, give them power, beer, beer making kits, the fastest broadband, roads built to last, roading designed to take the rush hour flow of traffic and get half of it to go in the opposite direction to business centres away from an already chocka CBD (Generation Zero offering things in Auckland, you might be interested in their designs) etc...(or not at all, whatevs), do you really think people are going to react negatively towards being offered that future? The catch, you have to work, probably in the job you already do. All entirely feasible, because that's exactly what happens today. Real future. Police state. Pick one.

[Gadget1]

It's worked for National thus far

I take it you mean the National party. At least they're doing something.

[Gadget1]

Something to think about, we are all here for the same goal, to improve society; the Mahas etc don't bother reading this stuff because they don't desire such change, those who are here, do. So how does that shared goal result in so much abuse? How could abusing each other possibly be a better option than shared understanding?

From what I see here, they're only interested in seeing the destruction of a system and have a great delight in anything being destroyed. They don't want to actually build anything just talk about it. Other people are more positive.

The bittermen...