View Poll Results: Would you live in NZ if there was no financial system?

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  • Yes, but it will never happen

    28 23.73%
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I see what you mean, but that is forced donation.

    Usual method are to leverage debt, but said island didn't have any, so I'm thinking they convinced them with explanations and shared understanding.
    When looked at from the financial economy perspective, true, that's how it will look to many people. How many though? What a lovely question.

    Like, we'll take some of your land or infrastructure or something that we deem to be of value enough, and we will reconnect you to the mainland and make you rich. that usual method?

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan
    The society forces its consensus onto the asset owner.

    I believe many in other jobs will reduce their work output and/or increase their needs/wants. I know I would.
    No. It asks for permission and if possible offers some form of recognition (new hospital/university/building named after them or something). If permission is not given and the "asset" is of strategic importance to the country, then I would imagine that said "asset" "owner" is a white muthafucka and that unfortunately, as can currently happy to your or my "stuff", the needs of the country must come first sometimes.

    You mean you'd become a bludger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Fuck, you guys are going to run out of tissues at this rate.
    Fucksake don't tell them that. They'll get some delivered now, gah. They would have completely run out before thinking about giving us a break/going shopping for tissues... and I suspect some vaseline
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    As I wrote before, there was no argument. You need to stop reading so much into things mushman.
    I thought it harsh, my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    And bogan to outline his utopia . . He may have done but i might have missed it
    Resource Based Economy organically grown with community after community joining over no specified time limit. Quite possibly in order to allow many communities to try the same things different ways in order for them to find the most efficient ways of doing things for future generations and lmuch other cool stuff that goes whizz bang too.

    Close enough?
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Gadget, Zedder and Husaberg.

    Maha will be along soon to join them.

    Nah, there's only three so it must be you, musho and axhole. It's no good trying to include someone who's obviously not there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    When looked at from the financial economy perspective, true, that's how it will look to many people. How many though? What a lovely question.

    Like, we'll take some of your land or infrastructure or something that we deem to be of value enough, and we will reconnect you to the mainland and make you rich. that usual method?



    No. It asks for permission and if possible offers some form of recognition (new hospital/university/building named after them or something). If permission is not given and the "asset" is of strategic importance to the country, then I would imagine that said "asset" "owner" is a white muthafucka and that unfortunately, as can currently happy to your or my "stuff", the needs of the country must come first sometimes.

    You mean you'd become a bludger?
    See, shared understanding at work

    Yes, that usual trade method, not coercion.

    Which is a yes to forcing in some instances. In the same way that we are forced to pay taxes.

    No, I mean that I value my work output and potential future work output at a higher value than the free market does.

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Resource Based Economy organically grown with community after community joining over no specified time limit. Quite possibly in order to allow many communities to try the same things different ways in order for them to find the most efficient ways of doing things for future generations and lmuch other cool stuff that goes whizz bang too.

    Close enough?
    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    This may be what zedder and others have trouble with; you've left out the most important part, which is that the same apples come back after only (?) being washed and waxed; without mentioning that point it is just exports. And you didn't back up the and back bit other than showing that other people say the same thing you did.

    I did.
    Yep, mostly that bogan but even his post 986, wtf does all that shit about "airstrip one with the windmill and all" mean?

    And he admits to posting while he's pissed as well. No wonder it comes out weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadget1 View Post
    Yep, mostly that bogan but even his post 986, wtf does all that shit about "airstrip one with the windmill and all" mean?

    And he admits to posting while he's pissed as well. No wonder it comes out weird.
    Try reading sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadget1 View Post
    Yep, mostly that bogan but even his post 986, wtf does all that shit about "airstrip one with the windmill and all" mean?

    And he admits to posting while he's pissed as well. No wonder it comes out weird.
    If I had to guess it would be a wellington reference as they have an airport and windmill.

    But making us guess like that is a very inefficient and conflictive way to communicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Try reading sometimes

    Try fucking explaining yourself better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    See, shared understanding at work

    Yes, that usual trade method, not coercion.

    Which is a yes to forcing in some instances. In the same way that we are forced to pay taxes.

    No, I mean that I value my work output and potential future work output at a higher value than the free market does.
    I'd hardly call it a shared understanding, but I can see why you might think it that way .

    No, that's economic blackmail.

    Absolutely.

    Entitled bludger it is then.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Gadget, Zedder and Husaberg.

    Gadget, Zedder and Husaberg.

    Maha will be along soon to join them.
    bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadget1 View Post
    Try fucking explaining yourself better!
    I typed as slow as i could and its not my fault you havent read


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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I'd hardly call it a shared understanding, but I can see why you might think it that way .

    No, that's economic blackmail.

    Absolutely.

    Entitled bludger it is then.
    What I mean is we both understand why you think as you do; unless you were being untruthful or have otherwise changed your mind.

    Not by the common definition, as there was no coercion.

    Only if you continue to think in a financial sense. In a moneyless utopia there is no way to value one's work output, no way to measure how one's needs/wants stack up against it. So the term bludger is simply not applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    If I had to guess it would be a wellington reference as they have an airport and windmill.

    But making us guess like that is a very inefficient and conflictive way to communicate.

    Yeah possibly so bogan. He probably thinks he's clever doing it that way.

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