My first poll for the NZ public

[bogan]

No doubt that will be a measure in the quest to ensure that there is enough to keep our economy going.

of course it runs of faith. Do you get paid before you do a job? No, you have faith that the person will pay you once the job is complete to their satisfaction. The program will have just about every single variable that can be thought up, but it won't be responsible for allocation, that'll be a job for the community to organise with the govt wrt resource logistics/availability.

There is every need for an internal budget if external country's are still running financial economy's, as they will want us to prove that we have produced what we say we have and haven't just printed more money without anything to back it.

Which sounds ominously like overspending can lead to jail time.

I'm not talking about that part. I'm talking about how jobs are allocated. Pure faith that someone will see a job that needs doing and just swap career tracks to do it, in your system. In the current one, market forces determine profitability of various career tracks, providing incentive to change if there are not enough workers in a particular job.

They will want to buy from and sell things to you; the proof is in the ability for your society to have goods to sell (and thus the production).

[Gadget1]

Glad I can oblige. Ugh my wife does work. Perhaps getting your facts right before having your friend prescribe an internet diagnosis jesus that's really really really very fuckin funny, might be a better idea if you're going to use that opinion to base some judgement on. I almost have tears in my eyes. Chur.

Tsk, tsk, I didn't post that your wife working or not had any bearing on the matter. He just had a read of your posts, that was enough. His actual first comment to me was "That guy needs help." But probably we all can see that.

[Katman]

Tsk, tsk, I didn't post that your wife working or not had any bearing on the matter. He just had a read of your posts, that was enough. His actual first comment to me was "That guy needs help." But probably we all can see that.

Your butt's hurting right now, isn't it?

[Gadget1]

Your butt's hurting right now, isn't it?

No, but my stomach is from laughing at you and mushman. Done any work today? Hang on, you're going to die poor iirc so don't bother doing anything. LOSER!!!

[mashman]

Which sounds ominously like overspending can lead to jail time.

I'm not talking about that part. I'm talking about how jobs are allocated. Pure faith that someone will see a job that needs doing and just swap career tracks to do it, in your system. In the current one, market forces determine profitability of various career tracks, providing incentive to change if there are not enough workers in a particular job.

They will want to buy from and sell things to you; the proof is in the ability for your society to have goods to sell (and thus the production).

It is a possibility... but such will be decided by wiser than myself.

See when I said jobs are voluntary, that's exactly what it means. That the system will raise flags that a job is becoming under resourced does not mean it sends you a text and tells you to turn up to a particular location tomorrow... although there would be some use in that for the people who are willing to get stuck in. I understand why you may not want to answer the question of, Do you get paid before a job?, but it's pretty hypocritical to demand similar of others.

Isn't that what I just said?

[bogan]

It is a possibility... but such will be decided by wiser than myself.

See when I said jobs are voluntary, that's exactly what it means. That the system will raise flags that a job is becoming under resourced does not mean it sends you a text and tells you to turn up to a particular location tomorrow... although there would be some use in that for the people who are willing to get stuck in. I understand why you may not want to answer the question of, Do you get paid before a job?, but it's pretty hypocritical to demand similar of others.

Isn't that what I just said?

Indeed.

Sometimes you do, though mostly not for wage work. I'm not demanding that of others at all. What I would like to know is how your internal resource management works, does you program allocate resources based on supplying everyone with equal amounts? or by work done? or by need?

No, because you said things about adjusting internal value of good to meet a budget to keep external societies happy; none of this is required in an RBE.

[mashman]

Tsk, tsk, I didn't post that your wife working or not had any bearing on the matter. He just had a read of your posts, that was enough. His actual first comment to me was "That guy needs help." But probably we all can see that.

Yes but it highlights that you haven't got a fuckin clue what you're talking about And for the record, the smile has been added in order to convey that I am not shouting or projecting any anger or angst towards you. I won't always use the smiley, coz I'll be smiling more than enough knowing that you're too preoccupied with me (flattered like, but you're gonna have to be one helluva woman to replace the current one), to see the wood for the trees. That such a professional would make a diagnosis based on some posts on the internet without any context in the slightest should see a shrink. I reckon you're telling porkies... but iffen you're not, they're more than welcome to speak to me in person so that they can soothe their worried brow. Am pretty sure the missus or my mates woulda told me too like, as few are that backwards in coming forwards and they certainly know that I'm open minded... either way, bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[mashman]

Sometimes you do, though mostly not for wage work. I'm not demanding that of others at all. What I would like to know is how your internal resource management works, does you program allocate resources based on supplying everyone with equal amounts? or by work done? or by need?

No, because you said things about adjusting internal value of good to meet a budget to keep external societies happy; none of this is required in an RBE.

It does what society needs it to do.

It's a single R.B.E. in an entirely financial world. When the entire planet is R.B.E. then yes, absolutely that part of the program will be put in a museum for kids to play with and laugh at their ancestors.

[bogan]

It does what society needs it to do.

It's a single R.B.E. in an entirely financial world. When the entire planet is R.B.E. then yes, absolutely that part of the program will be put in a museum for kids to play with and laugh at their ancestors.

Which is what? To my mind, society needs it to pay based on the job done, to incentivise job spread; but that means it is not very different from the current system at all. But the question is not what society needs, it is how your proposed society will work? Thus we can establish if your proposed society is what society needs...

Which can happily keep its external books the normal way, by relying on market forces to set the price of export/imports, the computer program is unnecessary, and of no use anyway.

[mashman]

Which is what? To my mind, society needs it to pay based on the job done, to incentivise job spread; but that means it is not very different from the current system at all. But the question is not what society needs, it is how your proposed society will work? Thus we can establish if your proposed society is what society needs...

Which can happily keep its external books the normal way, by relying on market forces to set the price of export/imports, the computer program is unnecessary, and of no use anyway.

It doesn't pay anything. R.B.E. is the incentive. Society will let us know what it needs and it will get implemented, because as you say, it really isn't that different in the way it runs to the current system.

It's necessary because those external influences will change the value that things are charged at internally.

[Zedder]

Yes but it highlights that you haven't got a fuckin clue what you're talking about And for the record, the smile has been added in order to convey that I am not shouting or projecting any anger or angst towards you. I won't always use the smiley, coz I'll be smiling more than enough knowing that you're too preoccupied with me (flattered like, but you're gonna have to be one helluva woman to replace the current one), to see the wood for the trees. That such a professional would make a diagnosis based on some posts on the internet without any context in the slightest should see a shrink. I reckon you're telling porkies... but iffen you're not, they're more than welcome to speak to me in person so that they can soothe their worried brow. Am pretty sure the missus or my mates woulda told me too like, as few are that backwards in coming forwards and they certainly know that I'm open minded... either way, bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Your reading and comprehenison are pathetic. The guy wrote "paraphrasing" and "nearly textbook case" so, breaking that down cos your thick: paraphrasing means using different words and nearly text book means close to textbook and would need confirmation in the form of a formal interview. Incidently, I doubt he's into R.B.E which means he works for money. Oh dear.

[Brian d marge]

Your reading and comprehension are pathetic. ..

Shall I raise , the comprehension issue , you have recently had?

[Brian d marge]

I'm good, it's still the real world.

See, I don't like banks or artificial markets either, but rather than whine about them I just minimise my exposure to them and keep right on working.

Now why would you be adverse to banks and artificial markets ( not that we have been telling you that for how long)
Is it because, they are ..................................

[mashman]

Your reading and comprehenison are pathetic. The guy wrote "paraphrasing" and "nearly textbook case" so, breaking that down cos your thick: paraphrasing means using different words and nearly text book means close to textbook and would need confirmation in the form of a formal interview. Incidently, I doubt he's into R.B.E which means he works for money. Oh dear.

Cool..........

[Gadget1]

Shall I raise , the comprehension issue , you have recently had?

Nah, all sorted by bogan.