My first poll for the NZ public

**oldrider** · 10th June 2015, 09:57

Got to get ready for the implementation of TPPA when we finally get to be another little star on "Old Glory" by any other name!

What a crock of shit!

**mashman** · 10th June 2015, 09:58

Corporate Media Blacks Out Coverage of Bill to Overturn Corporate Personhood

"Last Wednesday, the grassroots organization, Move to Amend, held a press conference at the National Press Club to announce that six members of the U.S. House of Representatives were introducing legislation to overturn Citizens United v FEC to make free speech and all other rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution available only to “natural persons,” not corporations or limited liability companies. The legislation would also give Federal, state and local governments the ability to limit political contributions to “ensure all citizens, regardless of their economic status, have access to the political process.”"

**Akzle** · 11th June 2015, 07:52

Originally Posted by mashman

“ensure all citizens, regardless of their economic status, have access to the political process.”"

huh. well, that's exactly what i want

**mashman** · 11th June 2015, 10:13

Originally Posted by Akzle

huh. well, that's exactly what i want

lol, as does everyone... according to some think tank somewhere.

**Brian d marge** · 11th June 2015, 12:02

Originally Posted by mashman

Company to overhaul tax system named

"US firm Fast Enterprises has been charged with designing the technology behind the $1 billion-plus overhaul of New Zealand's tax system."

Wonder how they will get me carrots into the computer

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**bogan** · 11th June 2015, 18:04

Originally Posted by mashman

Company to overhaul tax system named

"US firm Fast Enterprises has been charged with designing the technology behind the $1 billion-plus overhaul of New Zealand's tax system."

Originally Posted by mashman

Corporate Media Blacks Out Coverage of Bill to Overturn Corporate Personhood

"Last Wednesday, the grassroots organization, Move to Amend, held a press conference at the National Press Club to announce that six members of the U.S. House of Representatives were introducing legislation to overturn Citizens United v FEC to make free speech and all other rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution available only to “natural persons,” not corporations or limited liability companies. The legislation would also give Federal, state and local governments the ability to limit political contributions to “ensure all citizens, regardless of their economic status, have access to the political process.”"

Both those thing highlight great news. Our tax system needs such an update to bring it in line with modern tech (like xero), and while a media story about media not covering what the media story briefly covered might confuse you, the story is also great news.

**mashman** · 11th June 2015, 19:00

Originally Posted by bogan

Both those thing highlight great news. Our tax system needs such an update to bring it in line with modern tech (like xero), and while a media story about media not covering what the media story briefly covered might confuse you, the story is also great news.

You don't find $1 billion a little excessive for design and configuration of a system that is already documented?

**bogan** · 11th June 2015, 19:04

Originally Posted by mashman

You don't find $1 billion a little excessive for design and configuration of a system that is already documented?

Not really, be a shit-tonne of work in it.

**mashman** · 11th June 2015, 19:53

Originally Posted by bogan

Not really, be a shit-tonne of work in it.

To get it complete yes, but shit-tonne of money to accomplish that?

It also highlighted just how ridiculously convoluted our world is. An intentional action.

**bogan** · 11th June 2015, 19:56

Originally Posted by mashman

To get it complete yes, but shit-tonne of money to accomplish that?

It also highlighted just how ridiculously convoluted our world is. An intentional action.

Yeh, one generally follows the other.

Nah, it is just another positive example of how well our system work. Depend how positively or negatively you wish to, and chose to see things I guess...

**mashman** · 11th June 2015, 20:10

Originally Posted by bogan

Nah, it is just another positive example of how well our system work. Depend how positively or negatively you wish to, and chose to see things I guess...

Difference is, I have something tangible to make such a judgement as to which is a more negative approach to managing the planet and it's bits n pieces (us inc) than you

. So, I know better when I see it

Shame you choose to twist it toward a more negative bent.

**bogan** · 11th June 2015, 20:13

Originally Posted by mashman

Difference is, I have something tangible to make such a judgement as to which is a more negative approach to managing the planet and it's bits n pieces (us inc) than you

. So, I know better when I see it

Shame you choose to twist it toward a more negative bent.

What tangible thing is that? All I've seen from you is the negative characterization of a system extremely similar to the one you would propose, simply so your system looks more positive; yet you negatively create roadblocks so you can fail to take tangible steps towards living in your system...

Snake oil.