My first poll for the NZ public

[mashman]

I was not talking about the numerical value of money.

There is a reason why capitalist countries live in less poverty than those which are not.

Well that's the only solution open to people in this current day and age innit?

Yes, but I would imagine yours and my take on that would be very different. Mine involves rich countries raping poor country's to get rich. Yours?

[mashman]

I was not talking about the numerical value of money.

There is a reason why capitalist countries live in less poverty than those which are not.

Actually, perfect timing again.

"In sum, Greece tapped its IMF reserves to pay back...the IMF.".

Here's how broke Greece is paying its bills. Capitalist Greece. Shit for the people. Great for the IMF and anyone else who fancies a chunk of Greece. Shame so many are ok with this.

[Ocean1]

Actually, perfect timing again.

"In sum, Greece tapped its IMF reserves to pay back...the IMF.".

Here's how broke Greece is paying its bills. Capitalist Greece. Shit for the people. Great for the IMF and anyone else who fancies a chunk of Greece. Shame so many are ok with this.

So, nothing to do with Greeks spending more than they earn?

Or the fact that paying tax was largely optional?

And then blame the bank...

[mashman]

So, nothing to do with Greeks spending more than they earn?

Or the fact that paying tax was largely optional?

And then blame the bank...

Is that what your averages calculation leads you to believe? What about those guys in the shit that have never had a penny of debt in their lives?

It is entirely voluntary, otherwise prosecution would have been easy no?

I didn't blame the bank.

[Ocean1]

Is that what your averages calculation leads you to believe?

It is entirely voluntary, otherwise prosecution would have been easy no?

I didn't blame the bank.

I don't have an average calculation, you're confusing me with the fuckwit socialist poverty industry academic.

Which shows exactly how well your money-free socialist system would work, with pretty much everyone taking more than they can be bothered giving. Greece all over again.

There's no end to the things you blame for your warped delusions of poverty, when you can see the facts proving you're completely delusional then you might think to blame the same things for getting it so completely right.

[mashman]

I don't have an average calculation, you're confusing me with the fuckwit socialist poverty industry academic.

Which shows exactly how well your money-free socialist system would work, with pretty much everyone taking more than they can be bothered giving. Greece all over again.

There's no end to the things you blame for your warped delusions of poverty, when you can see the facts proving you're completely delusional then you might think to blame the same things for getting it so completely right.

Every single one of your "reports" requires there to be averages. You wield them as some form of undeniable truth and I find that funny. Telling me what I'm confusing eh, tsk tsk...

It shows nothing of the sort... in fact it shows quite the opposite. Although you do have to be in your right mind to care to notice.

bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... still didn't blame the bank. So that proves that you have no idea of who I blame for what and why. I believe they call that, an exceptionally ignorant position to be in when building a case for one's opinion. Not sure what you're scared of, but lay off the projection, it makes you look like a dick.

[bogan]

Every single one of your "reports" requires there to be averages.

As does the use of the term poverty.

Greece only gets the coverage it does because it is part of the EU, the supposedly first world. Are you trying to make us forget about the millions in third world countries who are worse off than the greeks?

[mashman]

Greece only gets the coverage it does because it is part of the EU, the supposedly first world. Are you trying to make us forget about the millions in third world countries who are worse off than the greeks?

Forget? Some might say that the solution that wasn't put in place to deal with the issue of poverty is now encroaching on the first world. Greece gets coverage because there's lots of money riding on it.

[bogan]

Forget? Some might say that the solution that wasn't put in place to deal with the issue of poverty is now encroaching on the first world. Greece gets coverage because there's lots of money riding on it.

So we can agree then, greece isn't that bad compared to non-capitalist countries in terms of absolute poverty.

Glad we're making progress.

[Ocean1]

Every single one of your "reports" requires there to be averages. You wield them as some form of undeniable truth and I find that funny. Telling me what I'm confusing eh, tsk tsk...

It shows nothing of the sort... in fact it shows quite the opposite. Although you do have to be in your right mind to care to notice.

bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... still didn't blame the bank. So that proves that you have no idea of who I blame for what and why. I believe they call that, an exceptionally ignorant position to be in when building a case for one's opinion. Not sure what you're scared of, but lay off the projection, it makes you look like a dick.

I haven't produced any reports. If you're again referring to the article about the fuckwit socialist poverty industry academic then you'll have to go ask him about his use of averages in describing absolutes. The fact that there's no possible coherent reply shouldn't slow you down in assuming whatever "truth" you like from that, it's never done so before.

Of course it does. It's yet another example where a group of people, largely free to consume whatever they like and to produce whatever they feel like goes down in a screaming heap under the load of it's own borrowing excrement. Exactly the situation your puerile cargo cult "idea" about fairies and hammers would produce, has produced at every iteration of such conditions throughout history.

No, of course you've never blamed the banks for anything. You have a precisely collated list of entities you have blamed for shit to hand and can produce it whenever you feel like. Your expertise and vast experience wrt ignorance and it's manifold uses provides you with an undeniable authority in projecting your own hugely impressive ignorance in any direction not immediately convergent with your sage and completely rational opinions regarding all sorts of shit. The fairies at the bottom of the garden tell you so.

[mashman]

So we can agree then, greece isn't that bad compared to non-capitalist countries in terms of absolute poverty.

Glad we're making progress.

We can't. All country's are capitalist, because they all use money. It's worse in the 1st world, because there is no excuse for it, on account of being the 1st world and being the shining example. I can see why country's tell the west to fuck off with their so called superdooper capitalistic model.

I am.

[bogan]

We can't. All country's are capitalist, because they all use money. It's worse in the 1st world, because there is no excuse for it, on account of being the 1st world and being the shining example. I can see why country's tell the west to fuck off with their so called superdooper capitalistic model.

I am.

That is not what capitalism is. Which ones told them to fuck off? you just said all were capitalist? Have I broken the mushy again?

[mashman]

I haven't produced any reports. If you're again referring to the article about the fuckwit socialist poverty industry academic then you'll have to go ask him about his use of averages in describing absolutes. The fact that there's no possible coherent reply shouldn't slow you down in assuming whatever "truth" you like from that, it's never done so before.

Of course it does. It's yet another example where a group of people, largely free to consume whatever they like and to produce whatever they feel like goes down in a screaming heap under the load of it's own borrowing excrement. Exactly the situation your puerile cargo cult "idea" about fairies and hammers would produce, has produced at every iteration of such conditions throughout history.

No, of course you've never blamed the banks for anything. You have a precisely collated list of entities you have blamed for shit to hand and can produce it whenever you feel like. Your expertise and vast experience wrt ignorance and it's manifold uses provides you with an undeniable authority in projecting your own hugely impressive ignorance in any direction not immediately convergent with your sage and completely rational opinions regarding all sorts of shit. The fairies at the bottom of the garden tell you so.

There is a coherent reply. It's called addressing the issue. blah blah fluff filler.

Sup? Why does your brain melt at the thought of people doing something for some reason other than money? That you obviously don't understand Resource Based Economy renders any comparison you make moot and destroys any credible argument you believe that you are putting forwards. It will work.

True, I have blamed the banks for many things. My blame list is lengthy. I have reason for that blame and it is not the negative bile spewing projection that you seem to think. Thaniks for the lulz though.

[mashman]

That is not what capitalism is. Which ones told them to fuck off? you just said all were capitalist? Have I broken the mushy again?

Yes it is. Profit. The dead and being warred against ones are telling them to fuck off. Turns out you didn't brokeded me. You did the usual ignorance thing by deciding that you know what I mean.

[Ocean1]

There is a coherent reply. It's called addressing the issue. blah blah fluff filler.

Sup? Why does your brain melt at the thought of people doing something for some reason other than money? That you obviously don't understand Resource Based Economy renders any comparison you make moot and destroys any credible argument you believe that you are putting forwards. It will work.

True, I have blamed the banks for many things. My blame list is lengthy. I have reason for that blame and it is not the negative bile spewing projection that you seem to think. Thaniks for the lulz though.

A fuckwit points to the less wealthy half of the most ridiculously rich population there's ever been and claims they're poor and you think there's an issue? You're as much a fuckwit as he is.

I don't have a problem doing something for money at all, do it every day. You're the one claiming there's an issue because some people have less money than others. That's your dream innit? You're just whining for the hell of it aincha?

You blame everything. It's what you do. It has fuck all basis in reality though. Well, other than you being a real live whining champeen of everywhere. Nevermind, with any luck you'll choke on all that bile and make the world a far more pleasant place in which everyone else can be as wealthy as they want.