My first poll for the NZ public

[Akzle]

Aye, usually refers to wealth created by the individual in question. Created.

Land? Depends, mine belongs to me, what having paid for it an' all.

$180? I'd say the provision of fuck all is worth exactly $0.00.

wealth? where does one get that stuff? i see a lot of debt, being that the whole system is debt... but wealth. please, share your enlightenment, that we may all find this "wealth"
(rhetoric. i'm wealthier than you ever will be. caravan and all.)

created? there's only one creator (or two, or seven, depending which big book you prefer to read) YOU have NEVER created anything. you are, at best, a food-to-poo conversion unit.

you own land?!?!?!?!?

i think not!

i think, if you look at the paperwork (you know, you swapped some pretty paper for another bitty paper...) you'll find the words "fee simple title"
title is not ownership. and i think you'll find that fee simple isn't even the best title. and i think you find, when you bin the meat suit, that neither title nor paper is going to be much good to you.

also. who did you buy it off? who bought it originally? what was the original contract that allowed you, down the line, to buy it at all??? who bought the land off god? who did god sell title to?

keeping inflation down, wages down, the employment market in the employers favor.... i'd say these things are worth 180, wouldn't you?

[Ocean1]

wealth? where does one get that stuff? i see a lot of debt, being that the whole system is debt... but wealth. please, share your enlightenment, that we may all find this "wealth"
(rhetoric. i'm wealthier than you ever will be. caravan and all.)

created? there's only one creator (or two, or seven, depending which big book you prefer to read) YOU have NEVER created anything. you are, at best, a food-to-poo conversion unit.

you own land?!?!?!?!?

i think not!

i think, if you look at the paperwork (you know, you swapped some pretty paper for another bitty paper...) you'll find the words "fee simple title"
title is not ownership. and i think you'll find that fee simple isn't even the best title. and i think you find, when you bin the meat suit, that neither title nor paper is going to be much good to you.

also. who did you buy it off? who bought it originally? what was the original contract that allowed you, down the line, to buy it at all??? who bought the land off god? who did god sell title to?

keeping inflation down, wages down, the employment market in the employers favor.... i'd say these things are worth 180, wouldn't you?

As I said, one creates it. It involves the manufacture of something that had not previously existed, and possibly but not exclusively exchanging it for something else. Pretending that everything everyone owns is either stolen from gaia and or purchased with money owned by someone else is bullshit, pure and simple.

As is your limited legal interpretation of the definition of land ownership. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, in your case it's not much worth bothering with.

And no amount of smoke and mirrors, including economic voodoo nobody, but nobody actually believes will come close to demonstrating that dole bludgers contribute anything worthwhile whatsoever in exchange for their alms, economically they're worth precisely minus $180 per week, no more, and probably a great deal less.

[Akzle]

As I said, one creates it. It involves the manufacture of something that had not previously existed, and possibly but not exclusively exchanging it for something else. Pretending that everything everyone owns is either stolen from gaia and or purchased with money owned by someone else is bullshit, pure and simple.

As is your limited legal interpretation of the definition of land ownership. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, in your case it's not much worth bothering with.

And no amount of smoke and mirrors, including economic voodoo nobody, but nobody actually believes will come close to demonstrating that dole bludgers contribute anything worthwhile whatsoever in exchange for their alms, economically they're worth precisely minus $180 per week, no more, and probably a great deal less.

you don't have a piece of paper that says "title" on it? there's more to your claim of "ownership" of land?

someone else does own money. (it's a sneaky fucken jew...)
you never really answered that one though.. (or any others, but hey) how did title come from "the creator" to "Surname, Mr. First Name"?

no-one's made shit. they've just jiggled the shit that was already here and called it an improvement and sold it to the masses.

dole bludgers? who applied that title? i'm talking about, ahem, job-seekers

[Ocean1]

no-one's made shit. they've just jiggled the shit that was already here and called it an improvement and sold it to the masses.

I make shit every single day that hasn't existed before, and my clients don't agree with your summation of the results. And their opinion as to the value of the shit I've jiggled is rather a lot more qualified than yours, not to mention a lot more valuable.

dole bludgers? who applied that title? i'm talking about, ahem, job-seekers

Strine. They're a feckless bunch but they have a wonderful gift in calling a spade a fucking shovel.

[mashman]

Kinda sums it up quite nicely.

[bogan]

Sounds pretty materialistic to me. I've been running in 'free world' mode for yonks; living costs fuck all.

Thinking about it, that does sum it up quite well, cos the barrier to living in a 'free world' is all in your head.

[mashman]

Sounds pretty materialistic to me. I've been running in 'free world' mode for yonks; living costs fuck all.

Thinking about it, that does sum it up quite well, cos the barrier to living in a 'free world' is all in your head.

It is in the head, right where that MONEY TO LIVE bit is.

[Akzle]

funny... It felt like my skull was missing a big red bit.
Thankfully, i filled it with greeeeeeen!

[Brian d marge]

funny... It felt like my skull was missing a big red bit.
Thankfully, i filled it with greeeeeeen!

pure greeen



Stephen

[avgas]

Kinda sums it up quite nicely.

I think that diagram is wrong. Half the people I have met if you took the money section of the job out (and likewise the brain component).....their head would make the sound of jellybeans in a tin.

[mashman]

I think that diagram is wrong. Half the people I have met if you took the money section of the job out (and likewise the brain component).....their head would make the sound of jellybeans in a tin.

Less likely to shaft anyone then . Means the problem must be with those fuckers who've forgotten how to be a human being, but should know better... on paper at least.

[mashman]

Falling oil prices shake up global economies.

It's a bad joke that money can affect economies in such ways. Useless humans.

[Brian d marge]

Falling oil prices shake up global economies.

It's a bad joke that money can affect economies in such ways. Useless humans.

hahahahaaa

GO THE ISLAMIC STATES ......SOmeone is dumping cheap oil on the market ,

and thats going to piss the a,rabs right off

Stephen

[mashman]

The gentle waft of revolution breezes across the plains of consciousness... ommmmmmmm

[Brian d marge]

Hey btw does anyone know how kim dotcom found outhe was being spied on . . .i thought he hired a detective to find out why he had so much lag on his online game