So poor riding or bad road conditions? What do you think is going on?

**Metastable** · 17th April 2010, 09:24

Check out this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqevtmpSp7w

Now forget the first 1:30 or so... the guys crashing on corner entry are obviously screwing up. However, the guys on corner exit.... I pose the question. Do you think it is rider error or something like antifreeze on the road?

**BMWST?** · 17th April 2010, 10:23

some bad riding in the early part but definetly seems to be something on the road there.some well prepared riders too i see

**wingnutt** · 17th April 2010, 10:35

yeh the first guy had given up on the corner, he was looking way out of the corner, the others seem to be going down under acceleration at about the same spot,
couild be just too much throttle, low gear and a shiny spot on the road.

**slofox** · 17th April 2010, 10:49

Did he lock up the back wheel?

**wingnutt** · 17th April 2010, 10:57

Originally Posted by slofox

Did he lock up the back wheel?

yeh I think he did, he pretty much ta;lked himself out of iit I think, also the other blokes going down are still into a lean when increasing speed, the guys gettin through ok, have the bike up before increasing speed.

**R6_kid:Me** · 17th April 2010, 11:06

Originally Posted by wingnutt

yeh the first guy had given up on the corner, he was looking way out of the corner

Given up? He didn't even try - he was looking straight ahead the whole time. At t he point where his rear wheel locked up and starts coming around he could have been looking through the corner and pushing real hard on the left bar to tip in and make th corner - it doesn't look like he's going too fast for the corner.

The rest of them are a mix bag. A couple are due to choppy throttle or just too much too soon - though I did notice that a number of them are as they go through the middle of the lane so it could possibly be due to diesel/contaminants in that middle part of the road, it certainly doesn't look like it rains much there! Also they don't seem to have a whole lot of speed leading (or lean in previous corners) and then proceed to go for more and more as they come past the camera - perhaps a little bit of showing off mixed with tyres that aren't warmed up/previously worn out to the edge?

**Taz** · 17th April 2010, 11:06

Poor riding all of it. There are no bad road conditions. Just dicks using the road as a race track.

**Metastable** · 17th April 2010, 15:00

Man I don't know. There is A LOT of Hamfistery going on for sure. Obviously all the guys that hit the guardrail on corner entry were screw ups. The first guy target fixated, the guy on the blue R6 that lost the shoe hit the front brakes...etc. But geez the 2nd guy on another blue bike is pretty smooth and he was pretty far into the exit and lost the back end.... a few other guys low siding from losing the back end on corner exit IMO is very strange. Another bizarre thing is they are all crashing going in the same direction. Why is that? I'm thinking that there is probably a combination of significant lean angle, plus something a tad slick (diesel or antifreeze which can stick around for quite a while - as was mentioned little rain)... and as they got on the throttle they used up what little traction they had left and lost the back end.

That's my guess.

**Jonno.** · 17th April 2010, 15:23

I like how at the first crash the guy says "slow down you idiot" haha.

**sinfull** · 17th April 2010, 15:25

Tube of vasaline wiped on the road and head up into the hills for an afternoons videoing !

**cold comfort** · 17th April 2010, 16:08

Originally Posted by BMWST?

some bad riding in the early part but definetly seems to be something on the road there.some well prepared riders too i see

Somethng on the road I'd say. A journo severely bent a new Multistrada (and himself) in Sardinia i believe due to black sand on black asphalt. Doesn't have to be diesel

**Hopeful Bastard** · 18th April 2010, 01:34

Some extremely bad riding - Of another kind - Here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36R8n...eature=related

**Urano** · 18th April 2010, 06:02

the road is dirty, a lot of sand, and dust...
and a lot of people care about how cool they'll look in the picture not at what happen on a dirty road if you turn the throttle to fast with 180 hp....