White poppies - an insult to our vets?

[Toaster]

Yep, similar here: "Your husband is missing in action. We do not know if he is dead or captured" (end of telegraph).

They sure lacked tact in those days!

[mashman]

why doesn't her government provide a bit more for for vets welfare, instead of making them dependant on charity from the public. Two faced bitch.

Because that's reserved for MP's i recently found out.

[SS90]

Ummm when did Peace need to be promoted? Its that like promoting "Lower Taxes"?
As for the white poppy appeal - what the fuck does "Peace Movement Aotearoa" actually do.
I am sick of people in the country thinking they start a Non-Profit for no reason, do no work - and expect the public to pay their salaries through donations.
Note to those out there who don't know. Non-Profit => Revenue - Expenses = $0.........so if you increase the expenses you can ask for more revenue.
BMW's are going cheap now too.

I agree. I see this as another free loader looking to get an easy ride thinly veiled as a "charity", and, even worse, climbing on the back of our veterans.

White Poppies for sale during the week of ANZAC day? huh? WTF?, just to send some idealistic little greenies to study problems in other countries? WTF? What about our own problems? What about sending some spotty faced scholarship receiving git to a town in NZ that has violence problems of it's own? Wanganui maybe? That won't cost 5K, far from it.

Bah! this stuff makes me livid. We have all seen the Vet's out on the street collecting, and, all they receive is cheaper Beer at the RSA in the evenings, nothing more, and not too far away, they will all be gone, and we will be left with the few Vietnam vets we have, after that, it's my generations turn and Timour Vets will be doing their bit.

To dirty this tradition with the concept of tapping into the publics wallets with powerful imagery (such as a poppy), to send snot faced bludgers to another country to study what? war and inequality of women.....why? NZ has a system that Women have MORE rights that men, so why the hell do we want to send someone somewhere else to study it? Violence/war? have they read the papers?

I say boycot the white Poppy, no matter what colour it is.

If they change it to a white dove or someshitlikethat, and, to another day (I think November 11th was the armistace of ww1), then perhaps it would be acceptable (but keep the money in NZ to help NZ)

[Horney1]

I think it's disrespectful.

For me Anzac day is a special day celebrating a bond and a common need which traverses borders . It also reminds us of the tragic cost of war. Anzac Day is certainly already a day to contemplate peace.

[oldrider]

The "truth" behind this must be very close to becoming public knowledge by now, can anybody post it clearly, concisely and correctly yet?

[Lias]

Even if I had a high opinion of PMA, I'd think this was disrespectful and ill timed. Given what I know about them I think its intentionaly disrespectful, and done with the clear intent of causing controversy and media attention.

PMA are basically professional extreme left rent a crowd (Think John Minto). They've protested against so much shit over the years its rediculous. They are not simply Anti War (most people are anti war, even soldiers!), but they are into the whole "Human Rights" and "Social Justice" bullshit.

If you see someone selling white poppies, please feel free to beat them to the ground. If it's anywhere near Hamilton, PM me so I can come give them a taste of pain, I wore my steelcaps to work today just hoping I'd see one on the streets but no joy so far. Once they are lying in a pool of blood, take their white poppies and dye them red with their blood. Problem solved.

These people are prime examples of the saying "Some people are alive only beause its illegal to kill them".

[Gone Burger]

Well, I am wearing my RED poppy today, and very proudly. Was asked to donate for a white one, and didn't even consider it for a minute. Wearing a red poppy means too much me for, to be able to show my respects to all those that deserve them.

[JMemonic]

Thanks to all those who have commented along the lines of its disrespectful and basicly they can take a long walk off a short pier. I cant bling you all. My belief is ANZAC day is a day of remembrance for us, and I am pissed off at the wingers who want to have another "holiday" if it falls on a weekend, fuck them, what would they do with the day just go to the mall shopping, they only lose half a day of that mindless consumerism anyhow, mind you these are the same prats that would have retail open on our stat days anyhow. There seems to be no respect in society any more.

Parents please teach your kids what this day means, many returned home from the various wars and conflicts changed, whilst they may have been alive many wished they were dead, may still ask why did I survive, and others came home for all intents and purposes dead inside.

As to what the RSA does go to a cemetery and find the graves that are well tended with simple brass plagues, these are the ones tended by the organisation, if you can, take a relative in one of these a poppy.

[avgas]

JM, truth be told I do think people need time off work to put aside for day.
Being on a weekend, means pretty much I won't be able to attend. As week spills into the weekend for my work.
This doesn't happen when it is a public holiday - as 'everyone' is not working, and means no one expects me to.
I imagine my life is not to dissimilar to others. Which is disappointing.
You see if a holiday falls on a weekend - it basically means that if you have to work on the weekend, you have to work.
Was hoping to drive down to dads, hook up a bayonet and fire a few round from the 303 in respect.

[oldrider]

Was hoping to drive down to dads, hook up a bayonet and fire a few round from the 303 in respect.

Don't waste any bullets, take the rifle in where there are some decent targets (no hopers) and do a bit of weeding!