Death penalty

[ManDownUnder]

c'mon - for or against - and why?

[ManDownUnder]

Opened in response to the very polite request made in this thread...

If you think this country isn't at war with smacktards like that, and doesn't need to defend itself, you're mistaken.

[James Deuce]

Against. It's petty barbaric revenge. It achieves nothing, including resurrecting or healing a victim.

Better to concentrate on developing a meaningful restitution policy.

[ManDownUnder]

For me - State Sanctioned Killing is still killing - still at odds with the fundamental right to life which is only usurped by those in favour of natural justice.

Line 'em up and kill 'em?

Poor Arthur Allan Thomas... dead, innocent but... hey - c'est la vie
Possibly the same for David Bain
How many other innocents?

When is that head count acceptable - or unacceptable?

What about the very fact the State is lowering itself to be that same killer it is trying to deal with? How can it ever have a moral high ground - or moral imperative - when committing the very same henous act?

"fraid not - I'd like to think society has developed away from that, and has more realistic ways of dealing with the lowlife that walk with un in society.

[Clivoris]

No chance of this thread turning into a shit-fight aye. I gotta sit on the fence for this one. I can imagine circumstances where it would seem very reasonable (and babaric), purely motivated by revenge. I think that those that want it should be prepared to carry it out themselves though. I can't imagine where the line would be drawn though.

[ManDownUnder]

I can't imagine where the line would be drawn though.

Pure and simple for me... a deadly outcome would only be acceptable:

1) In defence of another in the face of a potentially lethal situation
2) In the protection of our nations borders and or sovereignty.

For me it's a case of "if in doubt - don't!"

[onearmedbandit]

Despite emotions telling me otherwise I'd say no. What I would support is finding a small isolated island, ring it with security, and leave the worst there to survive from themselves, completely cut off from civilisation.

[ManDownUnder]

Despite emotions telling me otherwise I'd say no. What I would support is finding a small isolated island, ring it with security, and leave the worse there to survive from themselves, completely cut off frim civilisation.

Quite acceptable in my book. I'm not saying we treat them anything but contempt. They shit on society - time to turn the tables...

I say put 'em to hard labour smashing rocks that get sold to pay for their keep... the more they smash the better their conditions (marginally).

[imdying]

It achieves nothing, including resurrecting or healing a victim.

Much like any other system they've come up with (and are likely to come up). Dead people don't go and rape more little girls though.

[98tls]

For.......i am sure it would deter some......not all but some......rapists,kid fuckers,granny bashers etc........whats the point of keeping them onboard.....none.......it will never happen though as theres to many do-gooder save the world through talking about it types.When the fark are we going to wake up and do something different........oh and you can add the pricks that do the home invasion thing to the list.......people say no to the death penalty but i am sure they would change there mind if two or three pricks broke into there house,beat the shit outta them whilst taking turns to rape there wife.......but oh no..its all quite bearable as long as it happens to someone else........

[ManDownUnder]

Much like any other system they've come up with (and are likely to come up). Dead people don't go and rape more little girls though.

Which says to me we need to improve the system, rather than risk killing innocents. Surely that's the better option (and I'm speaking as the father of 2 GORGEOUS daughters...)

[ManDownUnder]

... bout time we had a decent drag em down beat 'em up thread LOL...

[Mom]

Against! totally against! Too many instances where an innocent person has been convicted, and worst of all this is sanctioned murder in my eyes! A planned, well thought out process to end someones life! very wrong!

BUT!

I could see me cheerfully getting rid of someone that hurts/damages one of mine.......is there a defense called "Mothers Blood"?

[imdying]

Which says to me we need to improve the system, rather than risk killing innocents.

I'm willing to risk that, given the rate of reoffending in this country.

[doc]

Against. It's petty barbaric revenge. It achieves nothing, including resurrecting or healing a victim.

Better to concentrate on developing a meaningful restitution policy.

I agree it achieves nothing but they don't do it again. My problem is that capital punishment is the right idea. But I have just finished reading the book "Trial by trickery" and I don't trust the system. It's fine if your a law biding sypophant, it becomes a bit different when your the one involved.