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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    Sadly, the war for our minds is only going to get worse in the short term.

    Saturday morning tv has hundreds of references to fizzy drinks, sweets and fast food.....white guy heroes and darkish badies....

    I would start by throwing out the TV and newspapers from their new impressionable lives and take them on lots of holdays to the third world.
    But, but... how are they going to babysit without TV...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post



    Personally, I believe the parents have the greatest influence.
    In the long term, I agree - parents DO have the greatest influence. BUT. When the kids are at school and their peer group is at its biggest size, then that peer group has a greater influence than do parents. As a person grows older and moves out of school and into the work force and beyond, the peer group size usually decreases and its influence on viewpoints decreases as well. Eventually we tend to revert to our original value systems - viz. those we learned as little kids - from out parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Yeah, and the tongue-in-cheek smiley too! Where's that one?
    My apologies...in all the arguments we've had, I'd never previously encountered irony...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    In the long term, I agree - parents DO have the greatest influence. BUT. When the kids are at school and their peer group is at its biggest size, then that peer group has a greater influence than do parents. As a person grows older and moves out of school and into the work force and beyond, the peer group size usually decreases and its influence on viewpoints decreases as well. Eventually we tend to revert to our original value systems - viz. those we learned as little kids - from out parents.
    Yeah, I think you are right in general. Kids don't like to be rejected and want to fit in and have friends and can succumb to influence, especially as they reach their teens when they are in turmoil from hormonal changes and suffering self-doubt along with growing self-awareness. It's a troubling and confusing time and leaves them vulnerable to outside influences against their better judgement or the standards set by their parents.

    The role of parents is cruicial and we always encouraged openness and frankness with our kids, trying not to react to emotional outbursts and allowing their emotions time to cool, when they would come back and talk, usually apologising for their outburst.

    Best thing a parent can do is take an interest in their children, go over their schooling with them and keep in touch with their teachers. Takes time, but kids need that time and interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    My apologies...in all the arguments we've had, I'd never previously encountered irony...
    How ironic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    I would start by throwing out the TV and newspapers from their new impressionable lives and take them on lots of holdays to the third world.
    No need to do that...just be selective with the channel button. I get mithered more to find a program about dinosaurs at the moment than whether Ben10 is on, simply because all else being equal, he watches the former with Dad and the latter on his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    How ironic...
    Thanks Alanis.
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    It's hardly surprising that kids are confused, scared, unsure etc... when their parents can't even get their government to look into the issues that concern their kids because they're too focussed on financial security... it's fucking pathetic.

    Kids should not have to worry about politics, they don't even know what politics are... we should be doing that on their behalf, to allow them to enjoy their childhood by being children and not worrying if the guy with a towel on his head sitting next to them is wired... shit we can't even get our government to listen to our issues... they are always dictated to us... so it's hardly surprising that the kids are worrying about issues that really shouldn't be their concern...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Personally, I believe the parents have the greatest influence.
    Parents are an influence for a while, until you get out into the world and form your own opinions. My folks influences lasted about 6 months!
    Teaching kids to enquire and think outside all the boxes is the way to go. Don't blindly believe, question everything, from every angle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Parents are an influence for a while, until you get out into the world and form your own opinions. My folks influences lasted about 6 months!
    Teaching kids to enquire and think outside all the boxes is the way to go. Don't blindly believe, question everything, from every angle!
    People don't like that. But in the spirit of the thread. Political Studies first thing Monday morning. Pick an "issue" on friday. Have a look over the weekend if you want. Monday, let the class discuss the "issue" and it's further reaching consequences, teacher only there to keep it a debate and within the realms of possibility. Monday "homework" due Friday morning on simple list of pros and cons on issue discussed prior Monday. And on and on, then give an "exam" at the end of the year. wonder if the teachers will be able to handle kids trying to wrap their head around the issues of life... Political Studies PAH Life Preparation Class they can call it.
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