Robyn Malcolm should go back to being a bad actor

[rainman]

Hmmm....just because she has a voice...does not mean she should use it.

Why not? People like you and JimO have voices, and use them. What is the difference?

[cowpoos]

My discussion with JimO was not about evidence and facts, but logic. His assertion (present climate change cannot be caused by mankind's recent combustion of fossil fuels, because prior climate change happened, and there was not associated fossil fuel combustion then) is a syllogistic fallacy, aka logical crap. It's like saying "my toe can't be hurting because I stubbed it on the chair, as last time it hurt it was because I dropped a hammer on it". There's no point arguing anything with someone who thinks like that, because the logical error is so blatant any argument would be tedious and likely unproductive. It's like a language gap - think of Basil Fawlty talking to Manuel, who lacks the (language, in that case) capacity to understand Basil's instructions. Prety quickly there's shouting and people being hit on the head. No fun for anyone.

If you think my response to JimO's original point is a "null argument" you have failed to understand the assertion made by JimO in the first place, and the fallacy implicit in it. If you want facts, consider that I did stub my toe the other day, and I have dropped a hammer on it in the past. Both hurt. Therefore, JimO's argument is invalid.

In case you get all grumpy about me being so "rude" please understand I'm not questioning your value as a human being or your other capabilities - I have no doubt that there are many things you both can do far better than me. But you're not thinking clearly on this issue.

Then again, most of the rest of this thread seems to be saying that celebrities must be wrong about "technical" topics because they are only celebrities, so maybe I am expecting too much here.

You are a very Good word smith...But you fail to be an Intellectual.
Your meaning of something that is writen, is not whats intended when, written by someone else is it? [unless your a preist, I'll forgive you]

[cowpoos]

Why not? People like you and JimO have voices, and use them. What is the difference?

I can't believe I have to explain this to you........BUT.......The difference is 'IF'....jimO or myself say something stupid...not many people will hear about it or influenced by it....If Keishia says something stupid lots of people will hear it and maybe influenced by it, because of who she is ment to be.

[JimO]

I can't believe I have to explain this to you........BUT.......The difference is 'IF'....jimO or myself say something stupid...not many people will hear about it or influenced by it....If Keishia says something stupid lots of people will hear it and maybe influenced by it, because of who she is ment to be.

give that man a cigar.

[JimO]

I can't believe I have to explain this to you........BUT.......The difference is 'IF'....jimO or myself say something stupid...not many people will hear about it or influenced by it....If Keishia says something stupid lots of people will hear it and maybe influenced by it, because of who she is ment to be.

give that man a cigar.

[cowpoos]

give that man a cigar.

Please do...price of fags just went up.

[marty]

Please do...price of fags just went up.

What? It's now gonna cost $50 for a blow job at the lake toilets?

[marty]

I was a little surprised the american govt. was considering lighting the entire (Venezuela sized) slick in the Gulf of Mexico - that's a fuck-load of black smoke in an uncontrollable controlled blaze!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...0641590&pnum=3

[rainman]

You are a very Good word smith...But you fail to be an Intellectual.

Thanks for the compliment. Never claimed to be one.

Your meaning of something that is writen, is not whats intended when, written by someone else is it? [unless your a preist, I'll forgive you]

Not a priest either. Closest I get to that all that malarkey is being a sort of a kinda buddhist. (I toldya I was sane).
And I haven't had nearly enough to drink to be able to understand what the rest of the sentence means.

I can't believe I have to explain this to you........BUT.......The difference is 'IF'....jimO or myself say something stupid...not many people will hear about it or influenced by it....If Keishia says something stupid lots of people will hear it and maybe influenced by it, because of who she is ment to be.

So, stop being helpless and speak up! What does she have that you don't? If you really want to say something stupid write to the press, or book a hall, put up some posters, and attract a crowd. It's remarkably easy to do.

[Winston001]

I can't believe I have to explain this to you........BUT.......The difference is 'IF'....jimO or myself say something stupid...not many people will hear about it or influenced by it....If Keishia says something stupid lots of people will hear it and maybe influenced by it, because of who she is ment to be.

Does it occur to you guys that you are attacking the messenger and not the message?? If you don't agree with Robyn Malcolm and Keisha Castle-Hughes by all means say so and set out your counter-arguments. Ignore the celebrities but demolish their message.

[cowpoos]

Does it occur to you guys that you are attacking the messenger and not the message?? If you don't agree with Robyn Malcolm and Keisha Castle-Hughes by all means say so and set out your counter-arguments. Ignore the celebrities but demolish their message.

Yes your right Winston...BUT....when you start arguing with an idiot...its hard for the bystanders to decide who's who!!

[cowpoos]

I haven't had nearly enough to drink to be able to understand what the rest of the sentence means.

Sober up and you might.

[rainman]

Sober up and you might.

Sorry no, I'm completely sober and it's still dictionary soup.
I even ran it by the kids, who are real language geeks, and what's more never been pissed, ever, and they said "eh what?"

But never mind, I'm sure it all makes sense to you. And to be frank, I don't care that much. How likely is it, do you think, that you could ever be persuaded that climate change is real and materially affected by mankind's activities? I'm picking... not. Too many uncomfortable conclusions that spin out of that. Anyhoo, at least Robyn and Keisha (and others) have some strength and courage to push this.

[Jonno.]

But never mind, I'm sure it all makes sense to you. And to be frank, I don't care that much. How likely is it, do you think, that you could ever be persuaded that climate change is real and materially affected by mankind's activities? I'm picking... not. Too many uncomfortable conclusions that spin out of that. Anyhoo, at least Robyn and Keisha (and others) have some strength and courage to push this.

No they don't. They're sheep.

Logic works the other way to. CO2 increase and temperater increase doesn't mean CO2 is the cause. My weight has been increasing too, therefore my eating habbits are directly linked to climate change.

[spacemonkey]

Actually Jonno CO2 is well known as having high heat insulation values (R value) in the atmosphere, not exactly a big leap of logic for increased CO2 = increased atmospheric insulation = less heat loss = higher temperatures.

As far as your eating habits go? Eat less = fart less! Methane has an even higher R value than CO2 ya porker!!