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    Licence to purchase liquor?

    The sale and purchase of alcohol is once again up for discussion with suggestions the drinking age be raised to 20. And the price be raised substantially.

    Alcohol can properly be regarded as a drug. The effects of abuse of alcohol run deep in our society and are witnessed by our doctors and nurses in emergency departments.

    But most people don't abuse alcohol. So how do we modify its use without using a sledghammer affecting everyone?

    How about a licence to purchase alcohol? Available to all at 20 and it only gets suspended if you commit a crime, or an offence involving alcohol.

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    yep ive suggested it in previous posts. the licence can include the requirement to purchase tobacco too.
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    And you can't walk more than 5 minutes without finding a dealer.

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    I suggested something like that to one of the local MP's - who was, at the time, campaigning for a return to a purchase age of 20...

    Me: "Why don't you make the production of ID compulsory for the purchase of alcohol - as is the case in some other parts of the world?"

    He: "...Ooooohhhhh I don't think the voters would like that!"

    Me: "You just lost my vote ya tit!"

    And he did indeed lose my vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    And you can't walk more than 5 minutes without finding a dealer.
    That would probably be the inevitable outcome...
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    How would a licence to buy affect those who make their own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magua View Post
    How would a licence to buy affect those who make their own?
    Produce the appropriate ID to purchase your alcohol making gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    Produce the appropriate ID to purchase your alcohol making gear.
    Would that then mean that you couldn't purchase yeast or sugar from the supermarket without said ID?
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    With any system their is always going to be some abuse. Is it actually bad enough that we need to do something about it? Is it bad enough to actually require Government intervention? Asking the Government to intervene is a big step. We already have a lot of laws and regulations in the area. How come they are not working?
    I don't know.

    Could we perhaps get parents to do something about their teens that have drinking issues instead, rather than the Police?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    The sale and purchase of alcohol is once again up for discussion with suggestions the drinking age be raised to 20. And the price be raised substantially. But most people don't abuse alcohol. So how do we modify its use without using a sledghammer affecting everyone?
    How about a licence to purchase alcohol? Available to all at 20 and it only gets suspended if you commit a crime, or an offence involving alcohol.
    They will raise the price, no doubt about that - with weekly borrowings of $250,000,000 they will take every dollar they can get, especially if they can be seen to be doing "something" about alcohol abuse.

    But, its unlikely to help. Countries like Ireland have expensive alcohol, and high levels of alcohol abuse. Countries like Yugoslavia have long since lost the battle, tax on alcohol from centuries back drove most drinkers to make their own.

    Our young people will still choose to take a recreational drug of one type or another. Taxing and restricting alcohol will just make some of the other drugs a more attractive choice by way of price and availability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    Produce the appropriate ID to purchase your alcohol making gear.
    It's foolproof!

    Just like with guns.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    Would that then mean that you couldn't purchase yeast or sugar from the supermarket without said ID?
    Of course, once you have the yeast you can grow it forever, so you dont need to go back for more. And you can ferment any sugar, simple sugars like cane sugar being able to produce vodka for under $5 a bottle.

    Long live prohibition !

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    Governments shouldn't give in to the minority who can't handle it and who ruin it for everyone.

    It's like banning pies in schools because some kids are fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    Our young people will still choose to take a recreational drug of one type or another. Taxing and restricting alcohol will just make some of the other drugs a more attractive choice by way of price and availability.
    That is true. As a teenager the sole purpose of consuming alcohol was to get wasted and no other purpose. No teenager truly enjoys a beer.

    We used to sum up whether it was cheaper to get tinny or a bottle of whatever.....it was usually cheaper to get a bottle. Now days I do'nt think it is. (you can get more people wasted from a foil than a bottle/buckies!)

    You make it more expensive on top of it already being a hassle, and the kids will just be smoking more pot.
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