Licence to purchase liquor?

[firefighter]

New Zealand has a habit of punishing those who comply with societies rules and rewarding those who disobey!

When in doubt as to what should or could be done about a problem, they simply punish all!

True. Why do'nt they start looking into giving beneficiaries food vouchers, which absolutely cannot be used for for alcohol or cigarette purchases......

That would lower a few of the stats I bet.

[Headbanger]

True. Why do'nt they start looking into giving beneficiaries food vouchers, which absolutely cannot be used for for alcohol or cigarette purchases......

That would lower a few of the stats I bet.

I'd be happy to swap there $100 food voucher for a box of piss.

[Tank]

True. Why do'nt they start looking into giving beneficiaries food vouchers, which absolutely cannot be used for for alcohol or cigarette purchases......

That would lower a few of the stats I bet.

Yep - I think thats a great idea.

I'd be happy to swap there $100 food voucher for a box of piss.

I think they have a name - so you need id to cash 'em (at least I hope they do).

[Headbanger]

I think they have a name - so you need id to cash 'em (at least I hope they do).

well then, They can buy $100 worth of groceries, I'll buy a box of piss, and we can swap in the car park.

In all seriousness I wouldn't, I don't do shitbag deals with shitbags, But I have no doubt that some fuckers would give away their only source of food in order to get on the piss.

[CookMySock]

New Zealand has a habit of punishing those who comply with societies rules and rewarding those who disobey!

Therein lies the solution. For a long time I thought things would be better if I was honest, did the right thing, and complied with societys' norms. Now those concepts are reserved for the people I love, and everyone else gets the leftovers - mainly because I'm completely sick of being left the leftovers much to everyone elses' amusement.

Steve

[McWild]

True. Why do'nt they start looking into giving beneficiaries food vouchers, which absolutely cannot be used for for alcohol or cigarette purchases......

That would lower a few of the stats I bet.

WINZ do give out notices like these, but they aren't very common. I don't know the reason for receiving them, but they do explicitly state no alcohol or tobacco, which I think is a grand idea.

[onearmedbandit]

I'd rather see a licence to breed than a licence to buy alcohol.

[blackdog]

I'd rather see a licence to breed than a licence to buy alcohol.

didn't someone suggest incentives for sterilisation?

[slofox]

WINZ do give out notices like these, but they aren't very common. I don't know the reason for receiving them, but they do explicitly state no alcohol or tobacco, which I think is a grand idea.

Interesting, that. Every time I walk past the WINZ office in Ham East, most of the herd waiting outside are SMOKING! At the price of ciggies, no wonder they need a friggin' benefit...

[neels]

WINZ do give out notices like these, but they aren't very common. I don't know the reason for receiving them, but they do explicitly state no alcohol or tobacco, which I think is a grand idea.

They're the vouchers that they get in addition to their normal benefit, and there are certain things you can't buy with them, they get really grumpy with the wife when she tells them they can't buy a cask of wine and 50g of tobacco with their emergency benefit money.

[freedom-wedge]

I'd be happy to swap there $100 food voucher for a box of piss.

Grins, opertunity knocks aye what, I do know what you mean though

[SMOKEU]

The problem here is that our government(s) in recent years have tried to remove personal responsibility from the majority of individuals for non traffic offences, for which they can't readily obtain revenue from.
Instead of holding the individuals responsible for their own actions, they government is trying to blame the actions of criminals on society as a whole. In essence, what the government is saying is "it wasn't his fault he stabbed an innocent person walking down the street, it's because alcohol is too easy to obtain and because pubs don't close early enough", or "he only raped a 12 year old because he had a bad childhood and was exposed to drugs and violence as a child".

The longer this lack of personal responsibility goes on for, the worse the problems are going to get. It's time to start giving out harsh punishments to those drunken troublemakers, and the courts should refuse bail to repeat offenders, and jail sentences should be handed out more readily.

[Winston001]

The problem here is that our government(s) in recent years have tried to remove personal responsibility from the majority of individuals for non traffic offences, for which they can't readily obtain revenue from.
Instead of holding the individuals responsible for their own actions, they government is trying to blame the actions of criminals on society as a whole. In essence, what the government is saying is "it wasn't his fault he stabbed an innocent person walking down the street, it's because alcohol is too easy to obtain and because pubs don't close early enough", or "he only raped a 12 year old because he had a bad childhood and was exposed to drugs and violence as a child".

The longer this lack of personal responsibility goes on for, the worse the problems are going to get. It's time to start giving out harsh punishments to those drunken troublemakers, and the courts should refuse bail to repeat offenders, and jail sentences should be handed out more readily.

Completely understand your frustration but we are already one of the heaviest imprisonment nations among the OECD. It doesn't seem to make any difference. Crime still happens.

[SMOKEU]

Completely understand your frustration but we are already one of the heaviest imprisonment nations among the OECD. It doesn't seem to make any difference. Crime still happens.

Just look at how lightly people get let off these days. If people even are unlucky enough to get arrested for a violent offence, and it does make it through the courts, then the courts do fuck all. Just a slap on the wrist usually.

[scumdog]

True. Why do'nt they start looking into giving beneficiaries food vouchers, which absolutely cannot be used for for alcohol or cigarette purchases......

That would lower a few of the stats I bet.

They do that in many of the states in the US, - a place to sray rent free and food vouchers.

If you swap your food for booze and go hungry? - it's your problem how you get food to eat.