Important!!! Anyone got pics of swanny's R1?

**NhuanH** · 22nd May 2005, 08:29

Originally Posted by wkid_one

Well said Zed....

If it were your money JSG - would you not want to ratify the facts as well?

what the hell (sorry Zed

) is this? A trainspotter's watershed moment: the two main protagonists of yesteryear agreeing on something! Whatever next, Blakamin returns with a box of chocolates??

By the way Zed (and Wkid), I agree. People have roles to fulfil as their contribution to our civilised society and insurance types and their associates are still people, just trying to get on with what they're charged with....

**StoneChucker** · 22nd May 2005, 08:43

I feel I must apologise. I may have used sleazy and greasy in my previous posts but they were not aimed at you personally. However I now see that thats what it ended up looking like. No excuse really, just spewing out stereotypes you see on tv. I don't for one second think badly of you, ok? Hey, I did mention in a previous post here that I wanted to BE magnum

I know you're just doing a job and you're absolutely right about investigating to protect the company against fraud. I guess every case should be investigated, but more expensive claims tend to get more attention (obviously). As you can see we were just amazed at the fact that there was an investigation after such obvious events transpired (obvious that it's a legitimate claim). What I failed to take into consideration is that the Ins. co. and you don't know everything WE know. But, with you being a rather thorough P.I, and joining KB, now you do

Hey, I hope you stick around here after the current case is settled. Look forward to your tales of P.I. escapes on motorbikes (again, like on Magnum but with a bike

)

Cheers,
Higgins, Zeus and Apollo. (Dave)

**Zed** · 22nd May 2005, 09:24

Originally Posted by NhuanH

what the hell (sorry Zed

) is this? A trainspotter's watershed moment: the two main protagonists of yesteryear agreeing on something! Whatever next, Blakamin returns with a box of chocolates??

Miracles do happen bud!

**750Y** · 22nd May 2005, 16:13

Originally Posted by Zed

Hi Tomcat & welcome to the website.

Can you please quote the post to which you are replying to. Not sure what "lot of hogwash" you are referring to? Thanks.

Hi Matt,
i think you may have missed the subtle reference in there('period'). I'm picking he's talking about me, which is fine, this is what the forums all about, none of it is personal & if it is, it's only words. My insight into this is as an investigations risk analyst(don't ask) so don't write me off just yet, I do understand some things and have the added benefit of having been on both sides of the fence, so i feel comfortable about my comments. I have the same motive as Tomcat which is to see fairness prevail in this matter.
So far I haven't read anything from Tomcat's perspective that leads me to think that my assertions are invalid.
This could turn out to be a good thread & well worth having some éxpert advice' enter into it from the horses' mouth so to speak.
And is anyone prepared to name the insurance company involved?

**Zed** · 22nd May 2005, 17:42

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

Did any of you get a piccy of the R1 etc at the crash site?The insurance co is doing an investigation (I spent about an hour yesterday with a pI),apparently there was a trackday at puke on sat......
Lemme know if you can help,I have the PI's e-mail....

I just got off the phone speaking with Tomcat the PI (a very pleasant chap who 'understands' motorcycling affairs) and assisted in verifying the details of swanman's accident on SH22 last weekend -I did have a birds eye view of it.

Hope it was a help to the investigation and that through our testimonies Frasers claim will not be hindered for too much longer!

**sAsLEX** · 22nd May 2005, 17:56

Originally Posted by Zed

I just got off the phone speaking with Tomcat the PI (a very pleasant chap who 'understands' motorcycling affairs) and assisted in verifying the details of swanman's accident on SH22 last weekend -I did have a birds eye view of it.

Hope it was a help to the investigation and that through our testimonies Frasers claim will not be hindered for too much longer!

has asked me to ring him as well which I will once I get home from uni!! uni is poose!!

**DEATH_INC.** · 22nd May 2005, 20:49

On Swanmans behalf I thank all of you.

He's not gonna believe this when he gets back....

**wkid_one** · 23rd May 2005, 18:35

Originally Posted by NhuanH

what the hell (sorry Zed

) is this? A trainspotter's watershed moment: the two main protagonists of yesteryear agreeing on something! Whatever next, Blakamin returns with a box of chocolates??

Hardly a watershed moment - if one was abreast of statistics - there must be a statistical probability that in all eventuality we would agree on something at some point in time! It just won't be on the existence of a single God or the pleasure of random tummy bumping before nuptials - no disrespect to Matt.

**wkid_one** · 23rd May 2005, 18:40

Originally Posted by Zed

I did have a birds eye view of it.

Presumably if that theoretical bird happened to be flying along at about 5 feet from the ground directly behind swnaman's bike?

**Zed** · 23rd May 2005, 18:54

Originally Posted by wkid_one

Presumably if that theoretical bird happened to be flying along at about 5 feet from the ground directly behind swnaman's bike?

Practically speaking, that "bird" made it around that horrendous corner as the carnage in front was viewed!

**erik** · 24th May 2005, 22:50

Tomcat phoned me too today, it was unexpected, but hopefully what little I could tell him was helpful.
Seemed like an ok guy on the phone.
Welcome to the site, Tomcat!

**swanman** · 25th May 2005, 05:53

Hello everyone. I have just been in Scotland for a few days and haven't been able to check the site until now. Gosh there appears to be some shit going down. SO far I have had no direct contact with the insurers though this is maybe because I am over here at the moment.
I am concerned that I appear to be getting checked out like this, as this is surely a totally bonafide case. What this means is that I have got nothing to be afraid of as everything is straight as. Thanks to the guys who have acted as witnesses so far. I will monitor this thread with great interest obviously. ALso if there appears to be any issues I will engage my solicitor to assist in any communications with AMI.

Obviously if there are serious complications or jeez non pay out! AMI's name will be dragged through the dirt. But I cannot think of a genuine reason why this should come to pass. Please feel free to PM me anything I should know.

Cheers Fraser

Oh I am back on the 2 June.

**ManDownUnder** · 25th May 2005, 07:26

Originally Posted by Tomcat

You need to remember that there have been people who have crashed a bike at the Pukekohe track and then attempted to make claims. Ask yourself this question before you condemn the insurance companies.

"Why do I pay so much gold to insure my bike?" The reason is that there are $150 million estimated in false claims a year in NZ alone. (Thats all types of insurances)If you ran a business insuring bikes what steps would you take to ensure a claim was legitimate??? Food for thought.

2 points here

1) The $150 million Tomcat referrs to is a conservative estimate of $150million with some estimate being double that... and that's just in NZ!
2) That $150 million is the amount fraud is costing the insurance industry. Not claims, not bike or contents insurance - FRAUD. As has been pointed out... guess who that gets passed onto.

Those points made, I have to say I've met Swanman a couple of times - he's a good guy and I'm sure the number of corroborating witnesses will make things quicker and easier for all concerned.

MDU