History question too - NZ Castrol 6 Hour Race

**Big Dave** · 28th April 2010, 18:06

REVSdaile is doing some research regarding the NZ Castrol 6 Hour Race;

http://kiwiridermagazine.blogspot.co...-six-hour.html

**Quasievil** · 28th April 2010, 19:25

I remeber watching these guys at one at Manfeild singin this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNwYwavVnas

**Motig** · 28th April 2010, 19:55

1987- 1st - Aaron Slight/ Wayne Clarke ( Aus) Yamaha FZR100T, Moller Yamaha Dealer Team.
2nd - Terry Fitzgerald/ Steve Tuttiett Suzuki GSX1100R, Callender Motorcycles Ltd.
3rd - Bob Toomey/ Rod Cox Suzuki GSX1100R, Trans Tasman Insurance/ Wellington Motorcycles.

1988- 1st - Tony Rees/ Dave Hicks Yamaha FZR1000, Yokohama/ Sheaff Motorcycles
2nd- Glenn Williams/ Paul Pavletich Kawasaki ZX10, Metzeler Kawasaki Dealer Team
Unfortunately not sure on 3rd place as I've got 2 teams marked in my program with 3/4 ? Mike Webb/ Peter Clifford (UK) or Anthony McCarthy/ Sean Aitken.
5th- Grant Ramage/ Micheal McCutcheon Suzuki GSX600F
6th- Russell Josiah/ Simon Crafar Kawasaki GPX600

**merv** · 28th April 2010, 20:45

Being a Honda man I know one correction needed is that Biber & Payne won on the VF750F in 1983 not a VFR750 as the VFR was not produced until 1986. Also 1985 winner was the original GSXR 750 not GSX 750.

Why is the article talking about the final race in 1987 and then lists the 1988 winners?

We discussed this stuff on this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-not-Wairarapa? but I don't think we discovered too many more clues then.

**woodyracer** · 28th April 2010, 21:39

why dont they bring the castrol 6 hour back?

**merv** · 28th April 2010, 21:45

Originally Posted by woodyracer

why dont they bring the castrol 6 hour back?

I guess "they" would if "we" bought as many new bikes as were sold back in those days to encourage the dealers to race in it and the sponsors to front up with the cash.

**Kickaha** · 28th April 2010, 22:26

Originally Posted by Motig

1987- 1st - Aaron Slight/ Wayne Clarke ( Aus) Yamaha FZR100T, Moller Yamaha Dealer Team.

1988- 1st - Tony Rees/ Dave Hicks Yamaha FZR1000, Yokohama/ Sheaff Motorcycles
2nd- Glenn Williams/ Paul Pavletich Kawasaki ZX10, Metzeler Kawasaki Dealer Team
Unfortunately not sure on 3rd place as I've got 2 teams marked in my program with 3/4 ? Mike Webb/ Peter Clifford (UK) or Anthony McCarthy/ Sean Aitken.

They were the first and last 6 hours I went to

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 29th April 2010, 06:16

Ahh endurance racing

Bloody fantastic. (from an ex Phase 1 team member)

**Motig** · 29th April 2010, 07:10

Originally Posted by Kickaha

They were the first and last 6 hours I went to

Like wise. Loved the fact you could watch all the pit action as well as see the whole track. Ahh the good old days.

**merv** · 29th April 2010, 07:27

I found a document I had after the 1980 6 hour by Suzuki that said that these all GSX1100 mounted teams finished as follows:

1st Neil Chivas, Dave Hiscock
2nd John Pace, Robert Holden
3rd Richard Scott, Peter Daniell
4th Peter Waters (didn't name his team member)
6th Rodger Freeth (didn't name his team member)

Some other brand came 5th.

Big Dave all the information, from 1984 at least, I will have locked away in that KiwiRider collection I have here that Vege was meant to collect from me but I don't have time at the moment to research the info you are asking for but I'll post stuff when I can as I discover it.

**Katman** · 29th April 2010, 08:41

I believe the 1982 race was won by the Hiscock brothers on a 750 Katana.

The Wire Wheel 1100 was introduced with the intention of regaining the title from Honda but at the last minute it was decided that the 750 could complete the race with one less fuel stop.

IIRC.

**roogazza** · 29th April 2010, 08:43

Originally Posted by merv

Being a Honda man I know one correction needed is that Biber & Payne won on the VF750F in 1983 not a VFR750 as the VFR was not produced until 1986.

If I remember correctly Merv, those VFs were a terrible thing with a 16inch front wheel and dud camshafts ? More fancied teams failed that year and old Bill kept going round and round and won it ?
We were waiting for it to blow. Good on Bill though, a win is a win. G.

**merv** · 29th April 2010, 18:12

Originally Posted by roogazza

If I remember correctly Merv, those VFs were a terrible thing with a 16inch front wheel and dud camshafts ? More fancied teams failed that year and old Bill kept going round and round and won it ?
We were waiting for it to blow. Good on Bill though, a win is a win. G.

Yeah exactly and we discussed it on that other thread. Alan Delatour took off like a man possessed in the first hour but after the pit stop the bike wouldn't run right and they retired the bike, which also happened to some of the fancied Aussies leaving Bill and Phil to win. Suzukis tried the 16" wheel thing too so the Honda wasn't odd there, and the VF bikes as such I think were a good package to ride, but reliability was a let down.

I mentioned before too it was funny how after the early success with the air cooled Kawasakis, the watercooled Kawasakis never featured as a winning package. Too many blown engines or brake trouble - even the great MK1 Glenn Williams never managed a win because he rode Kawasakis.

Here's Delatour's bike at that first pit stop http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...5&d=1071989725

... and here's Bill winning in the orange leathers - I just about missed him going by http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...6&d=1071990038

**jellywrestler** · 29th April 2010, 19:52

Originally Posted by merv

I found a document I had after the 1980 6 hour by Suzuki that said that these all GSX1100 mounted teams finished as follows:

6th Rodger Freeth (didn't name his team member)

that's cause Freeth did it solo when men were men and so were the women

**jellywrestler** · 29th April 2010, 20:06

Originally Posted by Katman

I believe the 1982 race was won by the Hiscock brothers on a 750 Katana.

The Wire Wheel 1100 was introduced with the intention of regaining the title from Honda but at the last minute it was decided that the 750 could complete the race with one less fuel stop.

IIRC.

Not so KitKat man. The 1982 was limited to 750cc