What is a Man? Points to ponder...

[mashman]

ha ha haaaaaa, I never thought it through that far...

[Headbanger]

Oh dear *shakes head*......and that will help how????

Tits are great fun.

Isn't that enough reason?

[Winston001]

Four pages, 137 posts, and I still can't work out what this thread is about. My guess is it's somewhere between New Age mysticism and the Promise Keepers. Let me know if anyone works it out......

[Genie]

As with most threads around here, many have misssed the point, go back to post one and take what you want from that one, after that not much made any sense.

Some men just don't get what it takes to be a man........

[Headbanger]

As with most threads around here, many have misssed the point, go back to post one and take what you want from that one, after that not much made any sense.

Some men just don't get what it takes to be a man........

It doesn't take anything, well apart from not being a woman, Its biological.

You can add all the fluff you want but its utterly meaningless.

[Edbear]

It doesn't take anything, well apart from not being a woman, Its biological.

You can add all the fluff you want but its utterly meaningless.

If you're referring to 'Man the Beast', yes, it is biological and many men think that is enough. However if you think 'Man the Entity' the complete 'Person' that is where the difference lies. That is where Mankind is above the animal kingdom and in a kingdom of his own.

As I said, he is not the strongest creature and without his brain he would be fodder for the animals and easy prey at that. As I also pointed out, if animals had equality in being able to reason, Man would be doomed very quickly due to his inferior physicality.

Man does rule the world and he can manage the resources of the planet sustainably and his family effectively, or he could given the right tools. It seems there is something sinister at work when you look around you at the mess the world is in and yet every person you speak to, wants it to be different.

Why don't husband and fathers accept their role and their responsibilities, why leave it to their wives to carry the main load of responsibility? How many women here, agree with this and would want their partners to step up?

The men here who are accepting their responsibilities and working hard for their families - how does your family dynamic work?

Who here is prepared to put the effort in to learn and grow and change, to improve themselves for the benefit of their families and of society? Who is prepared to look in the mirror and say, "I need to change." We are all the product of our birth and upbringing and we cannot change the past, but we can, and we have the responsibility to, change the future, to dorrect the mistakes of our parents where necessary. It is not easy, far easier to say, "This is me, this is who I am, take it or leave it!" That is your prerogative, but it does nothing for your life or the lives of those you care about.

The ultimate meaning of life IMHO is to be happy. That does not come naturally, or from external sources, it comes from within, and if you are not happy, and by that I mean deeply. a sense of self-esteem, a sense of appreciation, of value, not the happiness that comes from a possession or event, then you must look within yourself and ask what you can do to change that.

[Headbanger]

Mankind could drop everything to do with civilised behaviour, and it would change nothing in the great scheme of things.

You have just taken your personal views, based on your personal journey,and your personal outlook and applied it to the entire world population.

That is close to madness, We can find thousands of people conservative, radical and mad with ideas of how you must be to attain true manhood and they would all be as meaningless and irrelevant as each other.

[huff3r]

Mankind could drop everything to do with civilised behaviour, and it would change nothing in the great scheme of things.

But if you keep thinking that way then surely there is nothing to live for? The here and now is a necessity. Civilisation gives us our purpose.

[Headbanger]

But if you keep thinking that way then surely there is nothing to live for? The here and now is a necessity. Civilisation gives us our purpose.

You live for life itself. Your purpose is to breed.

If the population gave up on language ,stopped destroying the planet, and went back into the jungle how would it be worse?

[Edbear]

Mankind could drop everything to do with civilised behaviour, and it would change nothing in the great scheme of things.

You have just taken your personal views, based on your personal journey,and your personal outlook and applied it to the entire world population.

That is close to madness, We can find thousands of people conservative, radical and mad with ideas of how you must be to attain true manhood and they would all be as meaningless and irrelevant as each other.

Man is dropping civilised behavour and look where it is taking the world? Some of what I have written is personal opinion, granted, but most is observation of the reality around us. Human Psychology and endeavour has been a life-long interest of mine and I have studied the subject in some depth.

Itis plain that many agree at least in part with the posts.

You live for life itself. Your purpose is to breed.

If the population gave up on language ,stopped destroying the planet, and went back into the jungle how would it be worse?

Language is one of the key differences between Man and animal he could no more abandon language than he could breathing. Stopping the destruction of the planet would be a good start...

And Man was never "In the jungle", he has always been a sophisticated, societal and inventive species. Even those who do live closer to nature than we do, are far from animals.

[Edbear]

You live for life itself. Your purpose is to breed.

Breeding is more than having sex, mate. Think carefully about what it means to bring a life into this world as a father. Men who father children without regard to the consquences are a threat to mankind, not an asset.

[R-Soul]

The so-called "caveman days" never were a fact of history. Mankind has always been sophisticated.

Yes, they were - documented proof. And no, mankind has not always been sphisticated. Take your Creationism arguments to another thread.

[avgas]

So Ed,where do hookers fit into all this?

In the words of Space Ghost.
"20!.....YES!"

[Edbear]

Yes, they were - documented proof. And no, mankind has not always been sphisticated. Take your Creationism arguments to another thread.

Yeah, whatever. Sorry but this is not only my thread, and therefore I can post whatever I want, but I am not a "Creationist" and I have extensively studied Earth's history and specifcally your argument.

Such would take a thread of its own and some time to go through, and I'm not interested in arguing with you about that here. If you want to discuss it and learn about it, I'm happy to do so. Suffice to say, you're knowledge is rather limited if you can make an assertion like that.

[Headbanger]

Breeding is more than having sex, mate. Think carefully about what it means to bring a life into this world as a father. Men who father children without regard to the consequences are a threat to mankind, not an asset.

Indeed, that is your view.

On the other hand we could find a society that considered it Taboo to stay with the family after sowing their seed,and their position would be every bit as worthy as yours. Untill they decided that it was upto them to judge the rest of the world based on their personal views.