Toyota surf or Nissan Terrano?

**firefighter** · 4th May 2010, 08:37

Originally Posted by hospitalfood

I am amazed that nobody has mentioned the fact that this is a motorcycle forum so far..........

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

The OP did.

Amazing innit?! The very first line of my post......

**blackdog** · 4th May 2010, 08:41

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Nearly 170hp, thats a load of torque......
Steve

astounding........

**dangerous** · 4th May 2010, 19:41

Originally Posted by Woodman

They are gear driven pushrod engine so there is no cambelt or chain.

OK, ok... lets sort this out for once n all.
I was of the belief the Nissin LD27 was pushrod, then I was corrected and told they were cam chain... now someone says pushrod? any one actually know for sure?

**Woodman** · 4th May 2010, 20:08

Originally Posted by dangerous

OK, ok... lets sort this out for once n all.
I was of the belief the Nissin LD27 was pushrod, then I was corrected and told they were cam chain... now someone says pushrod? any one actually know for sure?

Definitely gear driven pushrod. I was an engine reconditioner in a previous life and have rebuilt quite a few of them. Not nearly as many as surf engines but still quite a few.

Edit, just re read your post and you mention a LD27 not a TD27. Terranos have a TD27 which is the pushrod gear driven. There is a LD series of Nissan engines which have an OHC chain driven cam, but they are only 2.0 litres( LD20)

Motu i will check that out. Good old 4d56.

**Motu** · 4th May 2010, 20:27

The L20 has a belt driven OHC and injector pump.The LD28 has a chain OHC,and the injector pump is driven by a belt.I know of no LD27.The CD20 has separate belts driving cam and pump - the pump is belt driven off the back of the OHC.The RD28 is belt drive OHC.The TD23/27 is gear driven pushrod.

**Woodman** · 4th May 2010, 20:36

Originally Posted by Motu

The L20 has a belt driven OHC and injector pump.The LD28 has a chain OHC,and the injector pump is driven by a belt.I know of no LD27.The CD20 has separate belts driving cam and pump - the pump is belt driven off the back of the OHC.The RD28 is belt drive OHC.The TD23/27 is gear driven pushrod.

Correct, although the first ld20 engines (4 cyl) had the same setup as the ld28 (6 cyl).

My arent we full of useless information.

**Toaster** · 5th May 2010, 03:48

I think they must have come up with the name SURF after leaving the thing parked beyond the low tide mark for a few days then finding the dang thing started first time. A fairly indestructible vehicle. Top Gear did a great show on this.

**Toaster** · 5th May 2010, 03:52

Originally Posted by firefighter

Amazing innit?! The very first line of my post......

Clearly a lack of attention on his part, but that was no surprise.

I prefer to think of it as a motorcyclist forum rather than a motorcycle forum. Rant and Rave is the ideal place for motorcyclists to talk about anything and, in your case, request/give advice about a car choice. Stuff the critics!

**Toaster** · 5th May 2010, 03:57

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Nearly 170hp, thats a load of torque, and dangerously close to V8 territory. Even the 1KZ-TE engine will all sorts of cars a fright on hills.

Steve

Now paint me purple and call me a turnip, but isn't power and torque just a wee bit different?

(Yes I am being picky but I can't sleep and need to say, well something.....)

**dangerous** · 5th May 2010, 06:11

Originally Posted by Motu

I know of no LD27.
TD27 is gear driven pushrod.

ah a usumpsion on my behalf, this is why I ask... so my engine (1992, 2.7TD Navara) is a TD27 ? the truck modle being a D21?
see... I learnt 2 things today.

**CookMySock** · 5th May 2010, 08:53

Originally Posted by Toaster

Now paint me purple and call me a turnip, but isn't power and torque just a wee bit different?

Of course. 170hp @ ~~3,500rpm is quite different to 170hp @ 5,000rpm. It was implied rather than stated, as I think people find spoonfeeding them insulting.

I see a few people took it that I was completely thick and implied the two were the same.. which is unfortunate for how it made them look. Oh well, move on.

Cue extensive and abusive discussion about power vs torque, as only kb can.

Steve

**Motu** · 5th May 2010, 12:43

Originally Posted by Toaster

I think they must have come up with the name SURF after leaving the thing parked beyond the low tide mark for a few days then finding the dang thing started first time. A fairly indestructible vehicle. Top Gear did a great show on this.

Top gear used the old Hi Lux,with the old 2L,which has rockers and no buckets - a much more reliable engine.

**firefighter** · 5th May 2010, 16:15

Lol. So after all that, comparing between the two vehicles i'm looking at, the Terrano is the better choice due to to the 2.4 Surf having a weaker motor.

Awesome that works out better as it's cheaper and good to go, and the surf is more expensive and needs stuff done (rego and RUC to get it the same as the Terrano).

Cheers.