Toyota surf or Nissan Terrano?

[blackdog]

They have EVERYTHING to do with torque! HP is not a measurement,it's a calculation - torque x rpm/5252 = HP.

eat my words....

however, i still maintain horsepower is a measurement, invented by james watt who ascertained that 1 horse can lift about 550 foot pounds per second over about an 8 hour shift

although a dyno can only measure torque and horsepower is calculated from that

[dangerous]

Lol. So after all that, comparing between the two vehicles i'm looking at, the Terrano is the better choice due to to the 2.4 Surf having a weaker motor.

Awesome that works out better as it's cheaper and good to go, and the surf is more expensive and needs stuff done (rego and RUC to get it the same as the Terrano).

Cheers.

na... its simpily down to personal choice, which is really whats been posted.

either wagons could go for ever either wagons could blow to bits tomorow... simply chose the one ya like.

[scumdog]

Nearly 170hp, thats a load of torque, and dangerously close to V8 territory. Even the 1KZ-TE engine will all sorts of cars a fright on hills.

Steve

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[scumdog]

Nearly 170hp, thats a load of torque, and dangerously close to V8 territory. Even the 1KZ-TE engine will all sorts of cars a fright on hills.

Steve

170 H.P.?

That's not torque, do you mean 170ft/lb?

If so it is a pretty weak V8 that puts out only 170ft/lb of torque.

[peasea]

170HP?
Do you mean ft/lb?

Then it's a pretty weak V8 that only has 170ft/lb of torque.

170 of anything actually.
I just snapped a V-Rod with more hp than that!

[Jonno.]

I have a 94 Terrano (2.7 auto) and it's been in my family since 96.
It's goes alright although it's no "insert fast car" but can hold 120 without too much effort when it gets there. I get about 600km to 60-70 litres.
It's been in my family since 96 and no major issue apart from diesel pump going.

[CookMySock]

I have a 94 Terrano [...] it's no "insert fast car" but can hold 120 without too much effort when it gets there.

1KZ-TE Hilux will hold 120k over the brow of almost any hill, with a long string of "oops I was gunna pass there" people behind it.

It's nutty how quick they are, and the later model ones are even quicker.

Steve

[firefighter]

Thought i'd better at least say what I bought in the end. I bought the Terrano. The thing runs great for a vehicle it's age, is pretty solid and everything on it works, no issues at all, and it's pretty fuel efficient, handles open road no worries, and i'm sure it'll probably just keep on going, as long as I service it. Is all I was after. It looks like the previous owner looked after it the way I look after vehicles.


Cheers for the relevant info to those who gave it.

[dangerous]

Thought i'd better at least say what I bought in the end. I bought the Terrano. The thing runs great for a vehicle it's age, is pretty solid and everything on it works, no issues at all, and it's pretty fuel efficient, handles open road no worries, and i'm sure it'll probably just keep on going, as long as I service it. Is all I was after. It looks like the previous owner looked after it the way I look after vehicles.


Cheers for the relevant info to those who gave it.

OHH SHIT, did I say the Nissin, crap shoulda been the Toyota LOL... weres the photo's? and value for money I like Valvoline diesel oil, also rate it in petrols over 200K on my 2.5 Triumph and it still had all its hardening on the over head gear and didnt blow/burn smoke.
I change my Navara oil every 4-5k

[firefighter]

weres the photo's?

Lol. I can put some up if you really want, but, it is just a Terrano!? lol.

[samuraipsy]

Obligatory mention that I know this is a bike forum.

I'm looking for a 4x4, and have found two which i'm deciding between.

I do'nt care so much for 4x4 ability too much, I already know Toyota surfs are better off-road. In all reality, it will be used more than 90% on-road, and will only really go up the odd rivers and down the odd beach and to the snow which both will happily do and in all reality could probably be done in a rav-4.

The two are a 1994 2.7 Diesel Terrano, and a 1992 2.4 Diesel Toyota Hilux Surf.

The Terrano has 70odd more kms, and immaculate for it's age.
The Surf obviously has the lower kms, and is above average for it's age.

The surf is a little more expensive, doe'st have a turbo timer, although looking at the owners it probably did'nt need one!(but still something I would get) It needs a new rego and some RUC's to get it the same as the terrano. Oh, and it has a sunroof!

The Terrano has a rego until Dec, 10000kms and of-course a functional turbo timer.

My plusses and minusses for the two.

Surf: - Would need to purchase a rego and user miles and turbo timer, not quite as tidy as the terrano.(close) Initial cost is $400 higher, before the rego, RUC and turbo timer. (so possibly more like $800+ more expensive)
+ IMO Looks a little better than the terrano, has less kms, feels a little gruntier even with a smaller engine......although they are probably about the same, hardly used over the last 5 years (second vehicle/seems genuine enough)

Terrano - Does'nt quite look as good, (although one of those vehicles that kinda "look good" for that model/I was quite surprised how much it did appeal to me) no sunroof, higher kms, did'nt feel quite as quick as the surf but I drove 3 surfs after the terrano so memory is biased I think.
+ Pretty immaculate, looks as if the current owner is as pedantic as me, $400 cheaper (not including the RUCs, rego and Turbo timer the surf still needs) and good to go, plenty of rego until dec, heaps of RUCs to go.

So which is a better vehicle? To me they're so close i'm literally thinking of tossing a coin, there's the Toyota reliability thing, but in saying that, the Nissan's are just as if not more reliable......

Purely going off price, the Terrano wins, as the Surf is more expensive from the start and needs a few things, but is better looking and i've owned a Surf I was really happy with before, and it did feel a bit more peppy. In saying that, the Terrano was more comfortable and pretty spotless, and I would'nt have to do a thing to until the end of the year..........oh, and it's two years younger.

Which way would you go and why? Have any info on either model you think would be important?

I had a 1995 R3M 2.7 non turbo. The plates had lapsed, so not much experience on the road. The few times I had it on the highway,, it was easy to get and hold 1-150. Porters pass was no problem up and breaks held nice on the way down. I even put petrol in it once and drove up porters. The terrano just went until it died close to the summit. I just went up there, detached and emptied the fuel tank. Re-attached and put fresh diesel in and pumped through the injectors as you do. It ran fine. The alternator is used to pump oil, and this is a fault that happens often. If your alternator goes, get a new one!!!!!
never buy a rebuilt alternator for these vehicles.

Note: The 1995 Nissan terrano R3m is a beast !!!. Around 1 meter of air, running my dogs on a motor cross track.

I know these terranos quite well (changing cross rod in half meter of river etc )

So ask away brother.

[Laava]

Think I will check this thread in 8 yrs time to see if you have an answer...
Also., what do you mean by "the alternator pumps oil"? For what?

[neels]

Also., what do you mean by "the alternator pumps oil"? For what?

There is a vacuum pump on the back of the alternator for the brake servo, which has an oil feed to it presumably to lubricate the pump itself, if the splines on the alternator shaft that drive it are stuffed you don't get vacuum any more and it's time for a new one. Don't think it pumps oil to anywhere else though....