What is it with guys bout girls on bikes?

[Hitcher]

My hubby and I tried that one with a uniden intercom between bikes.

Hubby set it all up (including putting the speaker and microphone permanantly inside our helmets) really exciting when we got on the
bikes to test it all out.

Can you hear me now?...no
how about now? ...no
now? ...... no

What about now?...yes!!.........but at that point he had pulled over to
the side of the road and I was directly behind him......! sheeesh

There was heaps of crackling and noise interferance. but apparently the hertz wasn't enuff we needed a real grunty one. so that was gunna be
about 2,500 and we didnt want to spend that sort of money.

He gets enuff of "my chat" at home without having to pay 2,500 grands for it!

LOL

I'll let you know how we get on... Handsignals only go so far...

If you see me advertising a couple of walkie talkies in a month or so, you'll know what happened!

[wkid_one]

Same goes for those on internet forums - in real life they are not so out going and opinionated,well in my case anyway.

I soooo agree. I find this in work all the time. Someone will come back to you with a harsh response to an email - yet - would never in a million years say it to your face.

People are also more inclined to complain over email, negotiate price over email, ask the harder questions over email etc - why, because it is de-personalised - there is no confrontation and discomfort that arises from it.

Once it is sent - you never see the persons reaction and if they do respond badly - you can just delete it.

I prefer to be a argumentative prick in real life and email - it is easier than having 2 personalities

[marty]

I've never encountered anything worse than pleased surprise from males, when I get off the bike & remove my helmet.

but those bunny ears give you away every time slim.....

ps - if you got off an augusta or mille i reckon the boys would pass out......

[Hitcher]

I soooo agree. I find this in work all the time. Someone will come back to you with a harsh response to an email - yet - would never in a million years say it to your face.

People are also more inclined to complain over email, negotiate price over email, ask the harder questions over email etc - why, because it is de-personalised - there is no confrontation and discomfort that arises from it.

Once it is sent - you never see the persons reaction and if they do respond badly - you can just delete it.

I prefer to be a argumentative prick in real life and email - it is easier than having 2 personalities

I find this at work -- people are prepared to say things in email they would never in a million years put in a letter. Threats against personal safety/property damage, the whole 9 yards. Correspondence to the PM that starts "Dear Helen" or worse...

[Draco]

We all seem to agree that it doesnt matter if your male or female. Everyone on this site enjoys riding bikes and most enjoy riding with others regardless of gender. As a women from the country (northland) ive struck constant sexism. I get ignored at group rides, ignored in bike shops, ignored in biking conversations at parties, and even had many men not belive i ride a sportsbike until another man confirms it. It's much better here in the city. Im also really fortunate to have a partner who really encourages women to ride. He even helped me finance my latest bike. But he is rare, to him it doesnt matter what size bike you ride. Sure he would love to see me on a 600, 750 or even bigger, but when i met him i was riding an RG150, (which he borrowed to get his licence back). And why should we have to keep up?? Do you men expect other men to keep up even if theyre a learner?? Some men are fast, some women are fast, and vice-versa. I'm a cautious rider for two reasons: 1) Spending time in intensive care after crashing makes you cautious if you have a brain & 2) I have an 8yr daughter to raise. Which proves someone's earlier point that social circumstances play a big part in why alot of women are more cautious.

We're only having this debate because women do meet with sexism. The reasons are irrelevant now because we're out there doing it, we only need to focus on changing those attitudes, and the best ones to have any impact on this are you men who fully support and encourage us by passing on your enlightened views to other men. Thanx to all those men out there who are doing this and chicks like me enjoy sharing this awesome hobby/sport with you.

[chic 'n' charge]

Im also really fortunate to have a partner who really encourages women to ride. He even helped me finance my latest bike. But he is rare, to him it doesnt matter what size bike you ride.

Wicked - does your partner have a brother??

Neat to hear from other women who experience the same treatment.
I really don't get bothered by it much. Lifes too short to worry about others thoughts. Imagine living our lives by what other people think we should do. I would be a nun for sure.
Hope you enjoy your riding days whatever sized bike you are on. Only you will know when you're ready to move to a bigger one. Ladies in our girls only group still ride 250cc's and wont change. They love it.

[Al]

Ladies on bikes are way cool.
Everyone who rides a motorbike for their own pleasure is way cool (note: Mr Plod rides because it is his job)
Girls can ride anything from scoots to beasts.... as long as they are happy and confident it is
Same goes for guys. Ride what you are comfortable/confident with AND what you can afford, if someone doesn't like your ride: FUGGEM

[DebK]

Observation from a newbie:With helmet & full gears on gender is unrecognisable in a majority of cases, right?

Smart-arse comments from others is pure jealousy. These kind of people (& some women can make shitty comments too) are sad & unfullfilled in life. Their glasses are always half empty.

I'm into rallying (& would love to get into racing a bike one day) and when I first started out had similar comments. It's the nasty but rare shitty comments from some women that were more confusing at the time.

[ching_ching]

When I rode with Celtic_Sea_Lily on Thursday, twas a great ride.

Even though it was raining she did what she said she was going to do and rode her bike up from Wellington. Could it be newbie enthusiasm? Yeh, some of that... but despite the weather and after having just started riding, she loaded her bike, strode it and rode it and we all know how treacherous it can be out on these roads for seasoned riders not to mention riders just starting out. She's got more balls then some guys I know and if you're hearing Celtic, if I can make it I'll ride with you anytime. Cher, cher.

The Chingster.

[jrandom]

Observation from a newbie:With helmet & full gears on gender is unrecognisable in a majority of cases, right?

I can pick 'em a mile off, girls on bikes always seem to look more graceful, less of a 'strangle the handlebars' posture. Long hair streaming out from under the helmet and smaller sizes in leathers generally tend to give the female pilots away, too.

Still, yer right about the concealing power of bike gear... someone I've literally known for decades (although hadn't seen for a few months) completely failed to recognise me in full gear a while back. And I was standing right in front of her, too, grinning under the helmet while she got flustered trying to figure out who I was. I doubt she would have taken me for a girl, though...

[Ms Piggy]

When I rode with Celtic_Sea_Lily on Thursday, twas a great ride.

Even though it was raining she did what she said she was going to do and rode her bike up from Wellington. Could it be newbie enthusiasm? Yeh, some of that... but despite the weather and after having just started riding, she loaded her bike, strode it and rode it and we all know how treacherous it can be out on these roads for seasoned riders not to mention riders just starting out. She's got more balls then some guys I know and if you're hearing Celtic, if I can make it I'll ride with you anytime. Cher, cher.

The Chingster.

Shucks! Thanks mate! Partly newbie enthusiasm & but mostly b/c I looooooove riding!!

Always keen for a ride - you know where to find me.

[jrandom]

Shucks! Thanks mate!

OK, OK, enough already with the mutual backslapping, Teletubbies Love Each Other Very Much and all that, we're all digging the positive energy off this inclusive lovin' attitude of y'all, now can we get back to bitching and pontificating? It's just not right, I'm getting uncomfortable here.

[Ms Piggy]

OK, OK, enough already with the mutual backslapping, Teletubbies Love Each Other Very Much and all that, we're all digging the positive energy off this inclusive lovin' attitude of y'all, now can we get back to bitching and pontificating? It's just not right, I'm getting uncomfortable here.

Awwwwwww. Are you feelin' a bit unloved j? There ya go, better than

[jrandom]

Awwwwwww. Are you feelin' a bit unloved j?

(blush)

(wriggle)

Stop it.

[Milky]

Observation from a newbie:With helmet & full gears on gender is unrecognisable in a majority of cases, right?

being a guy with shoulder length hair coming out from under the helmet, i do sometimes get mistaken for a female... hell even without the protective gear - when driving, not riding - i got mistaken as one when i went into a parking building a year or so ago

with these experiences in mind, i think u get better treatment on a small bike as a woman than u do as a guy... there seems to be a slight indifference to guys on small bikes, almost as if ppl think that they should get something more 'manly' :confused2