MR Race report for R2 VMCC 21 May '05

[Kickaha]

I doubt F3 will be that much cheaper anyway ? 125GP I reckon the constant engine re builds will piss you off.

Constant engine rebulds my arse,I know heaps of guys running them and the only time they need rebuilds is at the designated times for piston/crank replacement,and you can have one apart and back together with a piston replacement in 30min

Mella Yella seems to need more rebuilds than any 125GP bike I've ever seen

[k14]

Thankyou sir, you don't know much but atleast the things you do know are right . Why on earth does everyone seem to think that 125's need "constant rebuilds"?? They don't, maybe once every 5 or 6 meetings minimum. You could easily do the whole vic series on one piston/crank.

Guttered to hear about the meeting yesterday. Of course I am biased and reckon its a great idea for you to go to a 125, they are not as expensive to run as everyone thinks and are very very crashable (not implying anything), only thing that break are pegs and levers.

This 125 here: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-27138917.htm would be perfect and would be quite capable of winning the nationals with a competent rider. It has heaps of spares and would last for a year (apart from tyres) on them alone.

Yeah Ivan is right, we need more 125's out there on the grid, its a great class and of course everyone knows where the best all start. Hope you make the right decision, throw me a PM if you need to know anything.

[ajturbo]

Give me a yell if you need a hand getting your bike apart for repair

why??? you got a bigger hammer than MR???

[Two Smoker]

This 125 here: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-27138917.htm would be perfect and would be quite capable of winning the nationals with a competent rider. It has heaps of spares and would last for a year (apart from tyres) on them alone.

Shit thats a bargin!!! I wish i had a spare 6 grand Could be a goer aye MR???

[ajturbo]

ok... so what sort of cost are involed with the GP125...
no "i think this what it would cost!!"
but is there anyone out there who know the real costs of this class

[Two Smoker]

why??? you got a bigger hammer than MR???

LOL, "Im'a goin ta go get me them sledge hammeerrr ova thur"

Nah its a bit hard taking out the engine by yourself...

[k14]

ok... so what sort of cost are involed with the GP125...
no "i think this what it would cost!!"
but is there anyone out there who know the real costs of this class

Well, the costs aren't that bad. For club racing (vic series) you could pay your $6000 for that bike on trademe and the only thing you would have to spend a cent on would be changing the gearbox oil every 2nd meeting. Apart from that you could quite easily run it at every meeting no problems.

For the nationals, you would be looking at a set of tyres ($450 or so) and a new piston every round ($250 and 60 mins max to change). Remembering that this bike would be on a pretty level playing field and would definately have a chance of taking home the title (guaranteed top 3 assuming good rider and no DNF's). Oh yeah and (nearly forgot) you've got the cost of a new crank (of which the one on trademe is rebuildable) which costs about $250 again, and needs doing every 1500kms or so. This is a bit of a more tricky process but doesn't need doing very often.

So a full season of the nationals (including buying the bike) for under $10000, with a chance of winning the class. Also last year I know that the top 3 or so guys went over to the gp at phillip island and rode in the support class. They did have to fork out the money, but there isn't another class in NZ at the moment where you could do that. So there is definately something to aim for.

If I had a spare $6000 I would buy that bike in an instant, it would last me untill I wanted to go up a class and could be competitively raced in the nationals for a few years or more.

Any other questions class??

[Zed]

We will see as time passes by and what happens next.

Wow what an exciting day you had there MR, too bad it ended the way it did. O well, such is racing!

You're only young man, even if you have a break to 'gather your resources' you still have plenty of time to continue your racing career!

[Quasievil]

Constant engine rebulds my arse,I know heaps of guys running them and the only time they need rebuilds is at the designated times for piston/crank replacement,and you can have one apart and back together with a piston replacement in 30min

Mella Yella seems to need more rebuilds than any 125GP bike I've ever seen

mella yellow is an exception to the rule and I certainly understand that two stokes need rebuilds much more often that 4 strokes, and the point is less maintenance and repair costs for MR so why would he want to buy a runner that needs rebuilds so often when a 4 stroke does not ?
my point stands

[Kwaka-Kid]

Hey MR, really sorry to hear dude! not such good luck.

I am biased as i personally race in F3... However from what i see its a bloody cheap class. ZXR/VFR seems to be the best choice if u want it cheap... just go buy a cheapy with sub 50,000k's and youll be right i reckon.

costs = oil/filter change every 3 races regardless, Tyres... hmm, its up to you really, make it as expensive as you like really, but you can get away with $400 BT090's every 5 race meets.
And im sure with your ability, in all honesty all youll need is a pipe whacked on the beast and a dyno/jet if your fussy.

I think if your trying to do it on the cheap its also good to learn about engines etc and read a bit on mechanics, and what is good and is not good for an engine. Now i dont wanna jynx my beast, however i stick by a few simple rules
1) only ever let tacho touch redline in all need (once every few meets maybe)
2) NEVER hit rev limiter
3) NEVER smash down the gearbox too fast, i do my braking a fair bit before i start downshifting, to ensure the beast isnt ripped thru the redline on downshifts-as your least likely to see it then
4) always let it warm up for some time before riding off, then at least for the first lap of warmup/practise flex the engine up gentally till shes at full operating temperature.

I dunno, im far from perfect, and what i have said there isnt quoted out of any one book, its just what my old man told me, and so far the old girls held together pretty well. Anybody got any other advice on that?-or think that some of those are not to be worried about?

Well anyways, sorry for hijacking, take care dude and may some good luck come your way!

[Quasievil]

What the hell are you talking about??? The season has only just started... Vic Club Winter Series??? Pretty much the biggest club racing in the country... so big most of the country's top riders race in it

OK, isnt that a new one, first time this year ?

[Racey Rider]

OK, isnt that a new one, first time this year ?

newbe's (PT)

Try 25 years!

[babyB]

hay MR well racing has it ups and downs has been good seeing you out there doing it . (unfortunatly i missed this round)
whatever you decide youll have supporters

[LB]

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I was very glad to see you get up and walk away from your crash MR.

Good luck with whatever decision you make.
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[Motoracer]

Thanks for the support everyone! It really makes it easier to come away after a crash and still have the support from your mates. Cheers!

First thing is first so the bike is going to be sorted asap then we'll see what's on the cards next...