Set the scalpers on fire, it's already began...

[bogan]

And how is that different from buying a limited addition print of an artists work as an investment? Some people want the artwork purely to appreciate it, some look at it as an investment and plan on onselling it. If you buy something and can sell it for more then the original price was lower than what the market values it as, that is what some people call a wise investment.

cos art isn't sold with the demand and first in first served nature of concert tickets, and good art is generally auctioned with the proceeds going mainly to the artist.

[ynot slow]

Bought tickets (off trade me) to mission concert when Clapton played,cost us $450 for two on buy now,reason they sold out within 3 hours,did I regret it nope,when he came back last year managed to get tickets and was at vector,outdoors was better,but indoors was ok for that concert.

In one way I think who cares,but then I get pissed when people buy 10 tickets and flog them off for 10x value.Shouls be a limit of say 4 tickets each time online,if you can get another 4 then no problem,makes it fair to all.Good old supply and demand,my view is I'd have grabbed 4 tickets(2 for us and others for mates,if mates didn't want them,then maybe trademe at $50 -$100 above to cover t shirts or fuel,but not $500 each ffs).

[rustic101]

Scalpers and TradeMe can suck my smooth scrotum...

Scalpers deserve what they get Plus a hiding and TradeMe should put their hand up and challenge these pricks. TradeMe 'Trust and Confidence' my arse - Tui anyone

[AllanB]

Chill you know what will happen - the promoter will announce that due to demand there will be a second concert.

Of interest to fans - I know someone who is a paid up fan club member - he purchased tickets last Friday. It is a benefit for fan club members.

[Swoop]

They have obviously taken their inspiration from the Thugby World Cup pricing structure.

At least Metallica would be enjoyable.

[Elysium]

One thing I fail to understand is why scalping is considered so terrible. Generally if I buy something cheaply and sell it for more I feel that I have made a wise investment. Why are event tickets special? If I own something I should be able to onsell it and the market should set the price. I don't get involved in ticket scalping because I cant be bothered and dont have the money for the cash outlay but I find it hard to work out why people consider it to be some great evil.

I think you also fail to understand common sense. Lets say someone in your family died and I owned the only church available. Now since I own the church I will sell tickets to the funeral to the highest bidder. Now I couldn't give a fuck about your loss etc... because I will apply your argument here and don't see what I'm doing as wrong. Get me?

[rustic101]

And how is that different from buying a limited addition print of an artists work as an investment? Some people want the artwork purely to appreciate it, some look at it as an investment and plan on onselling it. If you buy something and can sell it for more thean what you paid, then the original price was lower than what the market value is. That is what some people call a bargain or a wise investment.

v. scalped, scalp·ing, scalps
v.tr.
1. To cut or tear the scalp from.
2. To deprive of top growth or a top layer: land scalped by strip miners.
3. To resell at a price higher than the established value: scalping tickets to the baseball game.
4. To buy and sell (securities or commodities) in order to make small quick profits.
v.intr.
1. To engage in the reselling of something, such as tickets, at a price higher than the established value.
2. To buy and sell securities or commodities for small quick profits.

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[rustic101]

I have just registered my disgust by reporting every auction on TradeMe using the Community Watch function. No ticket is being printed or release prior to 1 Sep 2010, which means none of the sellers have a physical item to sell, thereby breaching the TradeMe T&Cs.

[kave]

I assume we are discussing the last 4 definitions of scalping that Rustic101 posted. Perhaps I am missing something here but I am finding it difficult discovering any degree of immoral practice in those definitions. Sure strip-mining or tearing someones scalp off is pretty rough but "To resell at a price higher than the established value" or "To buy and sell (securities or commodities) in order to make small quick profits." really don't engender a sense of outrage in me. I always thought ticket buying was a `first in first served' type of game. I have attended concerts before and I have also missed out on tickets, c'est la vie.

I don't see why anyone would feel that a ticket seller to a rock concert or sports game has a moral responsibility to ensure that all fans get a ticket at original sale price and that any onsold tickets are sold at cost.

[Trudes]

I've already voiced my pissedoffness over this shit, it sucks arse and trademe should man up and take the auctions down (and scalpers can burn in fucking hell.....)
Anyway, a couple of things.....
Metallica are doing two concerts, both sold out within 10 minutes or something.
I read when I was trying to get tickets that they would ask for ID when you collect your tickets.
I've heard the reason for Vectra arena is that they will only play indoor gigs (Word of mouth, but tis what I heard).
Thinking of trying to get tickets to an Australian concert rather than pay scalping cunts a cent more than the tickets were bought for, I'd rather take a trip to Aussie.
Motherfuckers

[CookMySock]

ahh trademe. its all a scamsite.

It's just business. Some might find it immoral, but it's not illegal so people are going to do it.

Bummer you missed out though.

Steve

[marty]

I think you also fail to understand common sense. Lets say someone in your family died and I owned the only church available. Now since I own the church I will sell tickets to the funeral to the highest bidder. Now I couldn't give a fuck about your loss etc... because I will apply your argument here and don't see what I'm doing as wrong. Get me?

easy - people stop going to the church, and start using back yards instead.

scalpers exist because people pay the $$. simple as that. did the person who got $750 for justin beiber's drink bottle get this level of scalper-hate? no - she just fleeced someone.

FFS - it's only fucking metallica. spend the $$ taking your children snow skiing for the day. or spend it on a Cali. Super Bike School hire-bike track day and rape someone elses machine

[Usarka]

It's just business.

Not it isn't. Business' pay tax.

[ynot slow]

Trade me are to make money,selling tickets due to any reason is legal,i.e I bought 2 for mates and can't go,my mum needs an operation etc.And if tickets sell for $500 each trademe make a few $$$,so why kill the income.End of the day if the promoters put another show on that may alleviate the scalping,but not often we get 3 shows in a city,but man would it piss the scalpers off if the promoter said heck we'll do 2 more shows in Vector,another 1 in Welly and Chch,which they could do if the tour is at the end of the oceania leg.