M1 Motorsport BMW S1000RR Début

[wharfy]

What happens when you change to a tyre with a different radius than the traction control was deisgn for? Do you need to recalibrate the electronics? (assuming the traction control reads the front and rear wheel rotation speed)

Do you allow for software/sensor modifications, if not, how could MNZ control it?

Maybe software engineering skills can become as valuable as suspension tuners at the track. Do we want to go there? Or is it the future?

We are already there Johan, The ECU in the 675 (and in Aprillia, Ducati, KTM, benelli...) can all be modified directly (no powercommander type intermediate box needed) with software readily available - Check out

http://www.tuneboy.com.au

For about the same price as a power commander you get software to run on a modest Windows lap top that can dick with the native ECU, you can map the fuel and ignition individually for each cylinder (obviously not to be done lightly or you could brick it).
I have this kit for the 675 and got Lester Ferdinand (from Murray McLeans in Nelson) to tune it on their dyno.

In theory I could have a wet and dry tune for every track I race on - it takes about 2 min to hookup and download a tune (its about as easy as itunes for your mp3 player )
In practice I don't dick with it - just like I don't dick with the suspension settings - cause I don't know what I am doing.

I suspect that someone will come out with new software to manage the TC on the newer models as soon as there is a market.

Also the current model 675 has the slipper clutch functionality emulated in software in the ECU so the line between mechanical tuning/modification is already pretty blurry. Oh and a quick shifter is a factory plug in option on 09 and later models.

Your in the computer bizz, what's your reverse engineering skills like ? Could be an interesting little hobby

[imdying]

That thing looks like your wee after too much Red Bull... Hoping when the race fairings arrive you're going for that scheme in your avatar, cause that looks stunning

[scracha]

Maybe software engineering skills can become as valuable as suspension tuners at the track. Do we want to go there? Or is it the future?

Put enough C coders at the track and with the right PLC's we won't need to bother with these pesky bloody riders.

[White trash]

No Mrs POOOOOOOOOOs I think you are wrong only coz I wish you to be wrong, BMW website states TC is available as an extra with race abs which to me means it is not on the base standard model???

When did you learn about puncuation and capital letters Craig? Your posts are half readable now, bit like your riding really......

[CHOPPA]

When did you learn about puncuation and capital letters Craig? Your posts are half readable now, bit like your riding really......

I actually noticed him offering usefull advice on another thread! Must be getting soft.....

[CHOPPA]

That thing looks like your wee after too much Red Bull... Hoping when the race fairings arrive you're going for that scheme in your avatar, cause that looks stunning

Yeah its prob not my favourite.... The R W B colour scheme is limited to the RR model, technically im riding the S1000R because it costs an extra $800 to get the RWB colour scheme and the S1000RR label. Not much point when we have to paint the whole bike anyway

[unhingedlizard]

You going to race this thing at the 3 hour endurance race this year choppa (assuming it goes ahead)?

[gixerracer]

pHarq the lota ya

When did you learn about puncuation and capital letters Craig? Your posts are half readable now, bit like your riding really......

[jellywrestler]

From a safety point of view is it wise to run bikes with traction control together with ones without it?

[slowpoke]

Serious question: does traction control give tyres a harder or easier time of it?

Say someone who actually knows what they are doing (like that Craig fulla, idiot savant that he is, can ride a bike like very few people but can't master caps lock.....) can consistently slide the bike 'round the joint (ignoring HD for the moment). Will TC mean the tyres hooked up more so the carcass (tyre, not rider) will be more stressed.....or does spinning it up cook it more?

I remember when Garry McCoy really made his mark spinning it up and they theorised that because it was spinning rather than gripping the carcass was less distorted and didn't heat up as much. I wonder what TC means for tyres these days.......?

[scracha]

You going to race this thing at the 3 hour endurance race this year choppa (assuming it goes ahead)?

Well sod the traction control and quickshifter. Being a BMW, the real question is whether it'll have heated grips and matching panniers for the 3 hour touring race.

[CHOPPA]

From a safety point of view is it wise to run bikes with traction control together with ones without it?

How could it not be safe? Serious question....

Serious question: does traction control give tyres a harder or easier time of it?

Say someone who actually knows what they are doing (like that Craig fulla, idiot savant that he is, can ride a bike like very few people but can't master caps lock.....) can consistently slide the bike 'round the joint (ignoring HD for the moment). Will TC mean the tyres hooked up more so the carcass (tyre, not rider) will be more stressed.....or does spinning it up cook it more?

I remember when Garry McCoy really made his mark spinning it up and they theorised that because it was spinning rather than gripping the carcass was less distorted and didn't heat up as much. I wonder what TC means for tyres these days.......?

I found it was actually a bit harder on the tyre, usually i wouldnt be as hard on the gas out of higgins but with the TC i could be. The TC was set to let the bike slide a wee bit so you could turn a bit with the rear

Well sod the traction control and quickshifter. Being a BMW, the real question is whether it'll have heated grips and matching panniers for the 3 hour touring race.

I just applied for my ulysses membership

[CHOPPA]

You going to race this thing at the 3 hour endurance race this year choppa (assuming it goes ahead)?

Will prob do the endurance on an HP2 Sport

[unhingedlizard]

Cool! You'll be needing some engine case sliders for that!

[jellywrestler]

How could it not be safe? Serious question....

hi choppa,
it was a serious question and obviously it is safer than a bike without traction control.
What I was asking is when there's a mixture of bikes with and without TC in a corner is there going to be much difference in how they perform maybe adding a bit more risk etc to those without?