M1 Motorsport BMW S1000RR Début

[cowpoos]

Well done that man was great to see a new brand out there (3 actually) with apirllia and ktm making up the top 3 WTF up with that no japas?
Under the current rules there will be no way that bike would be allowed to race but the easiest and I think most sensible thing to do would be to allow all the NZ superbikes to have a quick shifter and allow traction control as all the bikes have the option of hooking these up via the ECU and race loom, will be interesting to see wot MNZ do

Your wrong Craig...traction control is fine as choppa states...it will be as homologated...quickshifter is a no...as it stipulates in rules no ignition cut devices...which is what it is.
But I'm sure Choppa will get a ruling from MNZ to clarify...as he will about removing the cat and make his own mid pipe between the headers and the pipe to run as a superstock??

Besides this...Frickin awesome times Chop!!!

[cowpoos]

Congrats Choppa, brilliant riding, sweet bike!

There's a rule that says traction contol can be used if it's OEM.

12a The fitment of a Traction Control unit is not permitted unless fitted as standard OEM for
the homologated model

But then quick shifter...

12 PROHIBITED.
The use of complete on board engine management ignition injection systems, data
acquisition computers, recording equipment are banned, (ie Motec type systems).
Note Official onboard lap timing devises and TV camera are permitted.
The use of gearbox quick shift systems including additional handlebar mounted kill
switches (fitted for this purpose) are prohibited

Errrrr...like I was just saying....didn't read whole thread before repleying...but this is how the rules are!

[gixerracer]

No Mrs POOOOOOOOOOs I think you are wrong only coz I wish you to be wrong, BMW website states TC is available as an extra with race abs which to me means it is not on the base standard model???

Your wrong Craig...traction control is fine as choppa states...it will be as homologated...quickshifter is a no...as it stipulates in rules no ignition cut devices...which is what it is.
But I'm sure Choppa will get a ruling from MNZ to clarify...as he will about removing the cat and make his own mid pipe between the headers and the pipe to run as a superstock??

Besides this...Frickin awesome times Chop!!!

[cowpoos]

No Mrs POOOOOOOOOOs I think you are wrong only coz I wish you to be wrong, BMW website states TC is available as an extra with race abs which to me means it is not on the base standard model???

We'll have to see How MNZ see it....And I think it would be wise for Choppa to make an appointment to see someone at MNZ [road race commissioner?? ]

[onearmedbandit]

Awesome news choppa, look forward to seeing you do your stuff down here at Ruapuna again.

[gixerracer]

Yea for sure they need to get the wip cracking on it asap MNZ should see sence and HOMOlogate it but this MNZ we are talking about so who knows what will happen. I think they should just ban evertything that aint a HONDA. The thing is if they let in the BWM with its race abs and tc etc y cant I get an 1198r and go race that there would be not much difference except that ducati would be way to expensive lol

We'll have to see How MNZ see it....And I think it would be wise for Choppa to make an appointment to see someone at MNZ [road race commissioner?? ]

[roadracingoldfart]

Yea for sure they need to get the wip cracking on it asap MNZ should see sence and HOMOlogate it but this MNZ we are talking about so who knows what will happen. I think they should just ban evertything that aint a HONDA. The thing is if they let in the BWM with its race abs and tc etc y cant I get an 1198r and go race that there would be not much difference except that ducati would be way to expensive lol

This is motorcycle racing Craig , dont expect parity and sence to be too prevelant in any decisions made.
I feel if its alowed because its a valid option or std fiment then thats cool but if it can only be made available for some bikes via a motec(sp) or similar then thats a bit differant.
Penalising a brand for installing advanced components on a bike is very negative, but as i said it is motorcycle racing.

[Toast]

Good shit, Chop! Awesome times in the damp/wet/whatever it was. Please, please, please get the rules bs sorted and then it should be an awesome fight to watch come Nat's

[Tony.OK]

Those rules look good to me, when would they come into effect?

I have a feeling those are from last year Chop (april 09, and Paul S is no longer the road race commissioner) and have been outdated by the Appendix C on the main rules page, those are the rules that kicked up the big stink last year re no cams etc.

Could be wrong though, am still waiting to hear back myself from Peter Ramage cause my bike certainly wouldn't qualify with those rules.

[pete376403]

Latest (June) Cycle World mag has the masterbike shootout run at Aragon (Spain) racetrack. BMW beat the other 8 by a considerable margin, and eurobikes filled the top 5 places. Japan has some work to do...

[EJK]

Aren't you the dude who got a Kawasaki 250R after getting your license in summat early 2008 and sold heat pumps?

You've come a long way! That's awesome dude.

[CHOPPA]

Aren't you the dude who got a Kawasaki 250R after getting your license in summat early 2008 and sold heat pumps?

You've come a long way! That's awesome dude.

Yeah your half right I started racing road bikes in 2008 after racing MX forever. My sister got a 250R in 08....

[Petrolic]

Good to see the beamer kick butt, What rubba was she using out there. Also why not allow Tc and Qs in the Nats, can't be price bcos only for a little more than a set of tyres you can get a Bazzaz unit with tc and qs and self mapping for about $800 us and so simple to fit. Works great and to be honest I only got it to fiddle with. I can see Faster tracktime....safer tracktime... and MORE tracktime.. yeh ha

[johan]

What happens when you change to a tyre with a different radius than the traction control was deisgn for? Do you need to recalibrate the electronics? (assuming the traction control reads the front and rear wheel rotation speed)

Do you allow for software/sensor modifications, if not, how could MNZ control it?

Maybe software engineering skills can become as valuable as suspension tuners at the track. Do we want to go there? Or is it the future?

[CHOPPA]

What happens when you change to a tyre with a different radius than the traction control was deisgn for? Do you need to recalibrate the electronics? (assuming the traction control reads the front and rear wheel rotation speed)

Do you allow for software/sensor modifications, if not, how could MNZ control it?

Maybe software engeneering skills can become as valuable as suspension tuners at the track. Do we want to go there? Or is it the future?

I was running Dunlop tyres so there rolling radius is much diff then standard and the TC worked perfect. I had heard it could be a problem so i had done my research. There are upgraded ecus and I could get my ecu reflased.

I would like some changes made to better suit the track but that will be the last thing we do