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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Just because cars have mirrors does NOT mean the driver LOOKS at them. THEY make assumptions too ... (there is nobody else on the road)
    Anyone that drives that piece of road and assumes that there is nobody behind them doesn't deserve to hold a licence.

    I'd also like to ask in which universe it is considered logical to move in the exact opposite direction to the one you have indicated?
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    Is that just out of the Gorge by the Balance Bridge turn off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    Anyone that drives that piece of road and assumes that there is nobody behind them doesn't deserve to hold a licence.

    I'd also like to ask in which universe it is considered logical to move in the exact opposite direction to the one you have indicated?
    Those that expect "logic" from all other motorists ... are indeed living in their own little universe ...
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Those that expect "logic" from all other motorists ... are indeed living in their own little universe ...
    I don't expect anything but a hard time from anyone, anywhere, and some call me cynical and paranoid for that, but let's remember Sentox did everything right and still nearly got taken out. what would you have done differently?

    Stopped and got run over by the cage behind you?
    Passed on the left and risked getting cleaned out by a cage that was indicating that way?
    Passed on the left and risked being taken out as the cage did the exact opposite to what his signalled intention was?
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    Probably the same thing ... maybe get lucky too ... and live. Maybe not ...

    Been there done that a few times before.
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    So it was more about luck than:

    take longer to be sure it's safe, and you'll LIVE longer ...

    ?
    Keep on chooglin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    So it was more about luck than:

    take longer to be sure it's safe, and you'll LIVE longer ...

    ?
    Even the lucky die too ...

    hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Even the lucky die too ...

    hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
    Yup, and it's always easy to know what someone else should have done when one is comfortably at home behind the keyboard, rather than on the road faced with a split second decision.

    Well done to Sentox for getting out of the situation, and for reminding everyone else about this particular danger.

    I for one am still keen to hear from those that maintain that 'every accident is avoidable' as to what they would have done in this situation.

    Hell I may be faced with an identical situation tomorrow. What will I do? Rely on luck?
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    Owe bugger, close situation indeed, lucky for you nothing worse happened.

    I seem to be sounding my horn alot lately.
    I have odd patches of paranoia when I observe and think people are operating there vehicle erracticly or seem in a hurry and have not looked properly when indicating to turn out form parking. I give a toot, (not all the time) but its a LOUD aftermarket horn sounds like a truck.

    Definetly makes them stop and look, time enough for me to access and carry on my way.
    Just remember... "wherever you go, there you are" .....Buckaroo Banzai 1984

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    Good luck with that then ...
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    good to hear you didn't get knocked off. One thing you could do in future is flash your headlight a few seconds before passing, or any other time. Or just adjust it to face up a bit more
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    Thanks for the feedback, everyone. After thinking over it some more this evening, I have a few thoughts.

    I guess the main issue was the initial decision to go past on the left. This is the part I've been questioning more in my mind, anyway. If I had hesitated for a moment, I would have been beside the back door instead of the front door of the car when he began his swerve, meaning I would have needed to brake hard and hope the difference in deceleration was enough for me to get clear.

    Because I immediately headed for the gap, I was around the area of the front passenger door when I saw the space in front of me begin to close, but the speed differential was enough to get me clear. My policy when passing any vehicle's blind spot is to accelerate instead of maintaining a constant speed, and that helped here.

    I don't think there's a perfect option here; the timing is very specific if a car takes an unexpected action like this. Hesitating to try and confirm a driver's action might just put you further in the danger zone, or it might save you. It could have been avoided entirely by stopping, but as Smifffy says, you're out on the open road (with limited visibility in both directions in this case), putting you in danger from behind. So risk being rear-ended or run off the road? Which is more likely to happen? Assuming there's room on the roadside, easy choice for me.

    One thing this does confirm in my mind: when passing through a blind spot (and particularly the danger zone of being parallel to a car), it's worth being a little more aggressive with the throttle. Minimise your exposure. Using the horn makes sense... it just makes me feel like a bit of an tool, if I'm honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Is that just out of the Gorge by the Balance Bridge turn off?
    Yep.

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    I've said it several times on a few posts - always ride with the "persecution complex" theory. That theory assumes that every motorist on the road got out of bed today with the specific intention of killing YOU.

    Applying the theory, you would have automatically assumed that the Fucker in the tin can indicated to go right with the intention of luring you to pass him on the inside so that he could nail you, or waited till you tried to pass him on the outside and nailed you that way (they're evil bastards!) So I would probably have hauled on tons of brakes and stayed as well back as posible till I was sure he's missed his opportunity to kill me, while making sure that the Fucktard in the car behind me wasn't trying to get me from behind.

    Had a near escape last weekend - was about to pass a car, noticed a vehicle coming down a rural driveway on the right hand side of the road. Applied my theory and assumed that the bastard was on his way with the sole intention of killing me, and sure enough, the dickhead turns left while looking towards the right without slowing or stopping. If I'd been passing I'd have been toast.

    I know it sounds a little crazy, but it works!!
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