Dear Mr English, I don't want a tax cut

[MisterD]

Thats 161 per week
thats $ per hour after tax. Well, well, well below the legal minimum wage. - So cannot be a accurate figure for people out there working.

Lefties always do that trick when talking about wages and tax issues. It includes people who work part-time, who are for the most part either beneficiaries keeping below the "lose your benefit" threshold and second-income earners in households with the other partner earning the main income.

[aprilia_RS250]

Here is a few questions for you lefties.

If I'm a doctor earning 100k where I usually work 80+ hours a week. I pay at 38% plus 2% ACC. Not to mention the 10% SL tax as well.

Now why should I pay substantially more tax than you to:
Use the road?
Use the hospital?
Use public services?

I doubt I even have time to enjoy these things as much as someone who works 40h a week and yet pays a lower tax rate than I do. Why am I being penalised for studying 8 tough years through med school, accumulating a 100k student loan and now I'm doing 80h a week trying to pay that off and enjoy life a little bit. The way I see it I'm being charged more because I worked harder than most throughout my lifetime. Is that fair?

You really think it's fair that you put in less yet I put in more and still, you, have the nerve to say I should pay more tax?

[T.W.R]

I doubt I even have time to enjoy these things as much as someone who works 40h a week and yet pays a lower tax rate than I do. Why am I being penalised for studying 8 tough years through med school, accumulating a 100k student loan and now I'm doing 80h a week trying to pay that off and enjoy life a little bit. The way I see it I'm being charged more because I worked harder than most throughout my lifetime. Is that fair?

8 tough years of drunken hooliganism

[Bren]

My mother always said "dont argue about politics or religion, you always lose"

So I am not going to argue....

[shrub]

Here is a few questions for you lefties.

If I'm a doctor earning 100k where I usually work 80+ hours a week blah, blah, blah.....

maybe what we should have a maximum number of hours worked - 40 is a good number.

Or maybe your hypothetical doctor should just wait a few years until he's a consultant and and earning $400,000 a year for a 40 hour week.

Quit your whining, if you don't have enough money don't count on the government handing you a tax cut, go and get a better paid job, get your employer to give you a pay rise or learn to budget.

[shrub]

8 tough years of drunken hooliganism

I think that Aussie doctor lady of yours spent more than 8 years becoming one and her drunken hooliganism hasn't totally gone away.

[Bren]

Why am I being penalised for studying 8 tough years through med school, accumulating a 100k student loan and now I'm doing 80h a week trying to pay that off and enjoy life a little bit. The way I see it I'm being charged more because I worked harder than most throughout my lifetime. Is that fair?

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Personally my opinion on life is it's not the hard work that counts, it is the colour of your tongue...Over the years I have come to realise that those who are at the top, or those who are the biggest bludgers are brown tongued ass lickers....I have been passed over a few times when seeking better jobs by people with less skills who are purely ass lickers and in bed with the bosses so to speak. Yes life is unfair on your typical hard worker...but I wont bend over and lick ass...a spade is a spade, and hard work is always satisfying at the end of a day

If you are a middle aged married white man earning an average wage then you mean jack shit to every one, but if you are a queer, or from a racial minority, or any other minority then government wants to lick up to you...

[T.W.R]

I think that Aussie doctor lady of yours spent more than 8 years becoming one and her drunken hooliganism hasn't totally gone away.

Ha true but she did it the proper way and paid her own way through her time as a student didn't bludge off the coffers and wasn't part of the Dunedin school of Medicine or the Otago scarfie way of life.
only one real exhibition of drunkeness so far such a waste of Moet & Chandon
Does a brilliant job of people who pass-out though

[shrub]

Personally my opinion on life is it's not the hard work that counts, it is the colour of your tongue...Over the years I have come to realise that those who are at the top, or those who are the biggest bludgers are brown tongued ass lickers....I have been passed over a few times when seeking better jobs by people with less skills who are purely ass lickers and in bed with the bosses so to speak. Yes life is unfair on your typical hard worker...but I wont bend over and lick ass...a spade is a spade, and hard work is always satisfying at the end of a day

If you are a middle aged married white man earning an average wage then you mean jack shit to every one, but if you are a queer, or from a racial minority, or any other minority then government wants to lick up to you...

That's really sad, I'm so sorry for you. Have you ever thought of getting a sex change, becoming gay or dying your skin?

[Smifffy]

I'm not really bothered about whether I get a tax cut or not. I will probably put it towards paying the power or fuel bill or something. I do think I pay too much tax. I don't find tax to be a disincentive to earn more money. I don't think that the tax that i contribute is used effectively or wisely. I did well in school and tertiary study, and am one of only about five from my class who are still in NZ, with the rest overseas, even after the recession.

Maybe they should have kept the tax cut money so that they could add a couple more portaloos to the tent for the RWC, or buy another couple of lifejackets for the America's cup boys. Perhaps they may like to take another 10 HECTARE block somewhere, with all of the accompanying road works and landscaping to build another juvenile justice/rehabilitation facility that will house all of approximately 40 people. Maybe they can use it to reward the building industry with more work so that they can rework the shoddy McMansions that were built by cowboys and bought on the cheap by greedy property speculators and sold to unsuspecting baby boomers busy who have spent the last generation stripping resources faster than ever before, so that their grandchildren will inherit a desert.

Maybe they could have like a basic tax system and then with the $30 a week or even more, they could have some kind of option scheme, you tick a box or register online and select from a range of initiatives that you would like your tax to go to, say maybe Health, Law enforcement, defence, education, roading, etc. So the Govt does the main funding through the main tax take, but the tax-payers also get 'some' say as to where they would like their tax dollars to go.

[aprilia_RS250]

maybe what we should have a maximum number of hours worked - 40 is a good number.

Or maybe your hypothetical doctor should just wait a few years until he's a consultant and and earning $400,000 a year for a 40 hour week.

Quit your whining, if you don't have enough money don't count on the government handing you a tax cut, go and get a better paid job, get your employer to give you a pay rise or learn to budget.

That's what happens... the doctor then shoots off to Australia/Europe/US gets a better paid job and pays a lower effective tax. How does this affect you?? 30k less in tax revenue and YOU have to service his 100k bill and you're one doctor less!

And no he'll have to work like a dog for 20 years to get to a senior specialist position and earn 400k.

Stop my whining....haha...FUCK YOU! I'm perfectly obliged to whine as you're the one that wants my hard earned money!

[avgas]

I would never ask for a tax cut ever again if all the worlds problems were fixed.
Shit I would pay 5% more tax if I could shoot all the 'gangsters'. Huntin' Tax.

[Tank]

Personally my opinion on life is it's not the hard work that counts, it is the colour of your tongue...Over the years I have come to realise that those who are at the top, or those who are the biggest bludgers are brown tongued ass lickers....I have been passed over a few times when seeking better jobs by people with less skills who are purely ass lickers and in bed with the bosses so to speak. Yes life is unfair on your typical hard worker...but I wont bend over and lick ass...a spade is a spade, and hard work is always satisfying at the end of a day

If you are a middle aged married white man earning an average wage then you mean jack shit to every one, but if you are a queer, or from a racial minority, or any other minority then government wants to lick up to you...

Yeah - its all because they lick ass or sleep with the boss - nothing to do with you and your shortcomings at all : Yeah Right !

[Fatjim]

Theere are many things unfair with this system. A single income family earning $150k a year with a aparent at home looking after the kids pays heaps more tax than a double income bringing the same home with the government subsidising someone else to look after their kids. Business men paying their wives a salary, running most of their house hold costs through the business, a large amount of people under $50 a year not paying taxes.

TBH, I'm sick of being the bastard who has to pay for all this! Hard working tax paying people in this country get ripped off. This change helps address the issue that PAYE earners over 70K have been shouldering a completely unfair tax burden. This isn't about John Keys mates, they're the bastards who avoid paying taxes through business, trusts, LAQC's etc.

National, thanks for the tax cut, I doubt I'll be voting National, but thanks anyway.

[Tank]

. This isn't about John Keys mates, they're the bastards who avoid paying taxes through business, trusts, LAQC's etc.

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Funny that - lets look at all the Labour MP's who have a trust and hide income thru it: (+ Helen Clark for fun - as located by Catus Kate)

Rick Barker
Barker Family Trust
Upton Family Trust

Brendon Burns
BP and PL Burns Family Trust
PL and BP Burns Family Trust

Steve Chadwick
Gonzo Family Trust

Charles Chauvel
Kittery Trust
Pepperrell Trust
Victory Trust

Helen Clark
Burke Trust
FG Clark Family Trust

Clayton Cosgrove
Eagle Bay Family Trust
September Trust (blind trust)

David Cunliffe
Bozzie Family Trust

Kelvin Davis
Davis Family Trust

Parekura Horomia
Panikau A2
Mangatuna 3, 4, 5, 7 and 8
Mangaheia 1B3Y and 2G1
Tokomaru K4A and K4B1 – trustee
Tuatini Maori Township section 1 block vi lot 2
Rosaleen Aorangi Smith Whanau Trust

Raymond Huo
Chesterfields Trust (family trust)

Shane Jones
Te Puna o Te Anaru Trust
Castlerigg Trust

Annette King
King-Lind Family Trust

Nanaia Mahuta
Mahuta Whānau Trust

Stuart Nash
Nash Family Trust

David Parker
Karitane Trust
Sue Wootton Family Trust
FD Parker Children’s Trust
Tarras Trust

Lynne Pillay
The Pillay Trust

Mita Ririnui
Ririnui-Calhoun Family Trust
Te Aomihi Anne Ririnui-Horne Family Trust
Riripiti Timi Waati Lands Trust
Te Arawa Lakes Trust
Ngati Awa Māori Trust Board
Pukeroa Oruawhata Lands Trust

Ross Robertson
The Robertson Family Trust


Labour : Double standards since ages ago!