Conti Attack2 or Pirelli Angels?

[banditrider]

I've got just under 6,000km's on a set of Angels at the moment. Really liked the feel when they first went on but now the rear is not feeling that great - it does not inspire a lot of confidence on rough roads. Feels like it is floating around on me. The front still feels fine.

The rear is also wearing excessively - I've probably only got 2k left in it whereas I can get 12,000km out of PR2's. A mate (on another Connie) has also had an issue with his Angels - he left home with what looked like plenty of tyre for the Four Points but only about 1,400 km in the belts were showing and he had to find a tyre quick - piccy below.

PR2's going back on the Connie - soon...

[StoneY]

Really?

Well between us AJ and I have Angels on 3 Buells and we are VERY pleased with the mileage...and as you know Stoney, AJ doesn't nana his ride and for that matter neither do I which is why we are both impressed with the wear.

Actually we have just put a new Angel rear on the CR, got approx 9000kms out of the last one so considering the way torquey V-twins chew tyres neither of us have any issues with that LOL. Plus Drury Tires did us a sharp deal

I must have misunderstood him then he didnt seem that impressed with the mileage when we discussed it... oh well chinese whispers huh?

He does like the way they stick to the road thats for sure.......

Are the Angels a dual compound like my Road Attack 2's tho>???
I mean cant compare oranges with apples and expect to get the same juice can ya?

Jury out on the Road 2's untill I wear a set out and see how far they actually travel
But so far....nicest tyres I have ridden on

[NZsarge]

I have Michelin Pilot Road 2's on my GSXR and Conti Road 2's on my KTM, both sets running long straight roads far more often than I like............ and wearing very well!

Never tried Angels but my mate who has em on BOTH his Buel's is not impressed with longevity

I had a set of Angels on my ZX14, they went ok but once the newness of the tyre disappeared the handling of the bike went with it and felt down right average right toward the end of the tyres life. I thought tyre life was passable but i've been hearing stories of people that have been less than impressed by the milage they've be getting.
Michelin Road 2's FTW!

[Gremlin]

hmmm just stuck a set of angels on the supermoto... so we'll see how they go.

[Waxxa]

I'm going to get a set of metzler 'sportec m5 interacts' I think they are called and give them a go this time around.

Correction: Metzler Roadtec Z6 Interact.

[Quasi]

I must have misunderstood him then he didnt seem that impressed with the mileage when we discussed it... oh well chinese whispers huh?

He does like the way they stick to the road thats for sure.......

Are the Angels a dual compound like my Road Attack 2's tho>???
I mean cant compare oranges with apples and expect to get the same juice can ya?

Jury out on the Road 2's untill I wear a set out and see how far they actually travel
But so far....nicest tyres I have ridden on

Hey Stoney - just relpaced my rear yesterday (the Wed ride got her well scrubbed in). About 6500km on it in 4 months. Would have liked to have got a bit more, but its a fantastic tyre - holds the road like glue.

[StoneY]

Hey Stoney - just relpaced my rear yesterday (the Wed ride got her well scrubbed in). About 6500km on it in 4 months. Would have liked to have got a bit more, but its a fantastic tyre - holds the road like glue.

road Attack 2 yeah? The dual compound?
6500 dont seem much for a duel comp.... time will tell!

How well was it sticking at the end, and was the replacement from that weekend puncture damage or because it was worn out?

[Mishy]

road Attack 2 yeah? The dual compound?

Not dual compound - they are a linear compound, so the change across the tyre is progressive, with no join , seam, or discernable change.

That's why wear very evenly, and keep their contour.

Clever little Germans, eh ?

[Owl]

Not dual compound - they are a linear compound, so the change across the tyre is progressive, with no join , seam, or discernable change.

Clever little Germans, eh ?

So like the old Avon Storm.............made in?

[Mishy]

So like the old Avon Storm.............made in?

Not even close.

Differential curing

[ajturbo]

i just got back from the track day on saturday....

i dropped the pressures to 30/30psi

crap for about half a lap, then they warmed up... WOO HOO....

I must have misunderstood him then he didnt seem that impressed with the mileage when we discussed it... oh well chinese whispers huh?

He does like the way they stick to the road thats for sure.......

Are the Angels a dual compound like my Road Attack 2's tho>???
I mean cant compare oranges with apples and expect to get the same juice can ya?

Jury out on the Road 2's untill I wear a set out and see how far they actually travel
But so far....nicest tyres I have ridden on

[Gremlin]

hmmm just stuck a set of angels on the supermoto... so we'll see how they go.

Right, an update on the Angels on my KTM.

Fitted approx 6500km ago, I just got a hole in the rear this evening, decent sized enough to have to race from gas station to gas station to get it home. I'll get it picked up Monday/Tuesday, let the shop have a look at the puncture and see if its worth saving the tyre.

Wet weather performance has been fantastic, really truly fantastic, dry weather also as good, a very stable tyre with predictable handling and stays at the lean angle you set it at. However, not very good in the gravel, very nervous and the compound appears to be soft enough to get quite pock-marked by the stones. Not a gravel tyre I suppose, but I'll explore on gravel anyway.

Now for the bad side. After 6500 ish, the rear is noticeably wearing flat in the middle, enough to now notice the difference in handling. There is still a few mm of tread, but for a tyre that replaced the Strada, I really was expecting in the vicinity of 10k, but I don't think it will get there. I believe the soft compound could have also been compromised by the gravel, so potentially I have hundreds of slits in the tyre that could turn into punctures

The Pirelli Scorpion Sync was definitely much better in this department, and despite the damage from gravel, and even a huge bloody nail, I never had one let me down, or need patching (and I've finished 6 sets already).

Due to my requirement to ride dry, wet, sealed or gravel, I don't think I would recommend the tyre for mixed use. Seal only, it may fair better, and with the v-twin thump, I can't imagine the centre of the rear enjoyed the torture.

I wanted to try a set of the new Pirelli Scorpion Trail (replacement for Pirelli Scorpion Sync), but my sizes apparently won't be available until March some time. I might try PR2 (even tho I said I wouldn't, for the KTM - love them on the hornet), but I also have 2 and 2/3 sets of Syncs left so I'll be fine until next year.

[banditrider]

There is still a few mm of tread, but for a tyre that replaced the Strada, I really was expecting in the vicinity of 10k, but I don't think it will get there.

I was hoping for the same thing but 10-11k on a Strada (I've had 2 sets) vs 6k on a Angel tells a bit of a sad tale. Also agree re the tyre going off pretty quickly. At about 4,00km the rear was getting quite skittish on rough roads and the handling was definitely not nice. The Connie just chewed the centre out and the profile was gone.

[NZsarge]

I was hoping for the same thing but 10-11k on a Strada (I've had 2 sets) vs 6k on a Angel tells a bit of a sad tale. Also agree re the tyre going off pretty quickly. At about 4,000km the rear was getting quite skittish on rough roads and the handling was definitely not nice. The Connie just chewed the centre out and the profile was gone.

So, definitely not for heavy bikes like ours but seem to have faired a little better on a lighter machine like Gremlins KTM but still not really up to par though.
FAIL!
Bring on PR3's..... ?

[Gremlin]

Also got a set fitted to the bosses blackbird, which I'll borrow for a week at Christmas, two up and luggage. 2000km, it appears at this stage its in for a very hard life, so let's see what happens.