Peter Bethune's trial starts Thursday 27 May

**SMOKEU** · 25th May 2010, 13:36

If people should stop whaling then they should also stop eating cows, pigs, chickens, sheep etc. A whale is just another animal after all.

**Tank** · 25th May 2010, 13:40

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

If people should stop whaling then they should also stop eating cows, pigs, chickens, sheep etc. A whale is just another animal after all.

Its because they are cute.

You never see them protesting about killing cockroaches do you?

**onearmedbandit** · 25th May 2010, 13:49

This just has FAIL written all over it.

**SMOKEU** · 25th May 2010, 14:04

Originally Posted by Tank

You never see them protesting about killing cockroaches do you?

It's only a matter of time...

**onearmedbandit** · 25th May 2010, 14:36

10characters

**Bald Eagle** · 25th May 2010, 14:39

Now thats magic

**onearmedbandit** · 25th May 2010, 14:41

It's raining, my radiator is awaiting repair, I've got time to kill.

**Max Preload** · 25th May 2010, 14:42

Originally Posted by rainman

I think you'll find grown-ups do find things like this to be sad, almost regardless of the circumstances.

I suspect relief at being rid of the fuckwit would be the dominant emotion.

**davereid** · 25th May 2010, 18:37

Originally Posted by Max Preload

I suspect relief at being rid of the fuckwit would be the dominant emotion.

This may represent a "turning of the corner" for the Japanese.

They have tolerated the harassment of Sea Shepard without serious retaliation. Unlike the Norwegians who are un-harassed by Sea Shepard as I understand they have declared them terrorists and authorised the Navy to sink them on sight.

Increasingly, the Japanese appear prepared to use force to defend themselves.

Next years Sea Shepard protest may end up with the ship, and all the crew in Japanese custody, sunk or some of each.

**Pixie** · 26th May 2010, 09:27

Originally Posted by rainman

You're just stirring, aren't ya?

Of course I hope it's a slap on the wrist. Be nice to get him home to his family. There was something in the paper to that effect the other day, saying it might be a suspended sentence. Not sure if that's just wishful thinking though.

If he is released, I'll pop around his place and take him some congratulatory beers.

I hope he get 15 years sharing a cell with a gay sumo wrestler called Bubba San

**rainman** · 26th May 2010, 10:05

Originally Posted by Pixie

I hope he get 15 years sharing a cell with a gay sumo wrestler called Bubba San

I understand you don't approve of what he has done, and think it is illegal. (It may even be, of course).
I don't understand, though, why anyone would get so warmed up over this issue that they would wish 15 years of anal rape on a fellow human being, who I assume they don't even know. That isn't a very enlightened perspective, to say the least.

Irrational hate (of greenies, or whoever) does you no benefit.

**davereid** · 26th May 2010, 10:12

Originally Posted by rainman

I understand you don't approve of what he has done, and think it is illegal. (It may even be, of course).
I don't understand, though, why anyone would get so warmed up over this issue that they would wish 15 years of anal rape on a fellow human being, who I assume they don't even know. That isn't a very enlightened perspective, to say the least. Irrational hate (of greenies, or whoever) does you no benefit.

So true. It would seem he has broken the law, if the Japanese court so decides he will be sent to prison. But prison should be the punishment. Not rape, torture or any other types of abuse.

He may end up being used to set an example. That also in my opinion is not reasonable. He should be punished only for his crime, not used for political gain. Sadly I think that the Japanese public are calling for blood, they want to say to Sea Shepard "its over" and Mr Bethune will be the one who pays.

**onearmedbandit** · 26th May 2010, 10:26

Ha, tbh most of the Japanese public wouldn't even know who he is. Most Japanese I've met haven't even eaten whale, those that have didn't think much of it. It is simply a pride issue for the Japanese, they don't want to lose face by being told what they can and can't do.

**Tank** · 26th May 2010, 10:40

Originally Posted by rainman

I understand you don't approve of what he has done, and think it is illegal. (It may even be, of course).
I don't understand, though, why anyone would get so warmed up over this issue that they would wish 15 years of anal rape on a fellow human being, who I assume they don't even know. That isn't a very enlightened perspective, to say the least.

Irrational hate (of greenies, or whoever) does you no benefit.

Its called humour (albeit it dark). I dont think anyone actually wishes 15 years rape on the guy. Same as when people use the term "burn him" in other post - its not actually supporting hunting the person down and setting them alight.

But hey - you gotta do something to fill the time - and he is single now - so its not even cheating.