im a postie an wear fluoro for a job an trust me people still dont see me , my other theory is drivers fixating on my bright colours making them more likely to hit me . black is my saftey colour
im a postie an wear fluoro for a job an trust me people still dont see me , my other theory is drivers fixating on my bright colours making them more likely to hit me . black is my saftey colour
I wear a orange saftey vest at work all day. i wouldint want to wear one on my bike as it would make me feel like im meant to be at work. anyhow my bike is bright. but hey if i see bikers wearing them it dont bother me just makes me think that they are makeing sure they get seen better.
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience."
Hardly professional and he is an Aussie
And I bet he rides a scooter on the footpath as a postie no wonder people almost hit him![]()
Lol will reserve any 'Kiwi Fruit' jokes
Mind you after riding around in this Welly weather this week I wish I was living some where dry lol like Aus
There have been days I would have been dryer in a submarine
So you'd rather reduce your visibility than admit this guy may have a point. I don't wear a fluro due to stupid vanity and the fact I'm a weekend warrior but I don't deny the fact that the more visible I am the more likely I am to be spotted. I acknowledge that cagers seem to have a blind spot for us but that doesn't mean that there is nothing that can be done to increase our visual presence.
Exactly. If I seriously thought that a fluoro vest made one jot of difference in improving bikers' visibility in the eyes of other road users, I'd probably consider wearing one. I remain to be convinced that People With Good Taste(TM) can be prevented from swerving to deliberately collide with effervescently fluoro calypso crusaders.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
An extract from the Police Riders Hand Book
Looking but not seeing
What we see depends to a large degree on what we expect to see. You may have experienced, at one time or another, pulling out and narrowly missing a bicycle coming from the other direction in which you have just looked. Errors of this type are common because road users, including riders, are generally looking for cars or trucks but not for smaller objects like bicycles or motorcycles, which they fail to see. When we concentrate, we don’t just look at a particular part of a scene, we look for particular types of objects in that scene. We find it easier to detect objects that we expect to see, and react more quickly to them. Conversely we fail to see objects that we do not expect to see. This has important implications for your safety as a rider. (see riding defensively page 21).
I was in the centre of Christchurch yesterday (walking) and there were so many different coloured flouro vests everywhere, anyone "not" wearing one really stood out!
God help us if they make a bloody law insisting that we all have to wear them, no body will ever see us!
Instead I am going to beef up my side reflectors and tail lights on my bike to be the most effective they can be!
Having been involved with signs in the past, I am aware that too much is as bad as too little, they have to do the job effectively! Trial and error till I get it right!
By the way, driving to Christchurch and back in the adverse weather conditions on Wednesday and Thursday just proved to me what a thankless job the cops have got!
There are some absolute bloody plonkers out there and most of them drive SUV's!
The other stand out was the state of the bloody highways, holes you could lose a railway engine in!
I am in favour of the increase in tonnage of the trucks but to excuse "all" truck drivers as great drivers is a total fallacy, there are some shockers among them too!
Fix the roads Transit, afterall we pay you enough you pack of pricks!OK, rant over!
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Hi All
Sorry to say but most of you guys are missing the point here! We are not debating the use of Hi-Vis vests during day time!
We are talking about a Kiwi company that used this GARMENT as a media to install a SELF-ILLUMINATED system on it; Besides the retro-reflective that comes standard on these type of garment, there are two highly visible EL (Electro-Luminescent) lamps running along the retro-reflective tape, this kind of light does penetrate fog, smoke and rainy conditions to make you stand out like a sore thumb without the need of other vehicles beam on you in the first place and from quite respectable distance too, giving other motorists (or pedestrians for that matter) plenty of time to notice your presence, the Green/Blue colour generated beam is different from any other standard source of light, hence the eye/brain will spot you instantly, furthermore, there is no glare effect from it, so your position is accurately acquired in ANY weather condition. (Somewhat similar principal to a Laser beam)
Read more here: http://www.exelitesafety.com/technology.html
This technology is now used by emergency services from Spain to Korea, let alone private organisations from road works, mining, trucking, airports and petroleum to name but few.
Don't fool yourself, be visible when you are on the road, especially in low light conditions, your life depends on it after all.
Happy and safe riding everyone.
I would have thought that the safest colour on a motorcycle would be black - with a gang patch? I mean, how often would you run down a hells angel or mothers patched rider as opposed to a Honda rider in a nice bright jacket? I think that a lot of it comes down to perceived personal safety. One may not feel threatened in running across a fluro vested, scaredy cat CBR rider, but who would mess with a bad ass gang rider?
Those 'baby on board' labels swinging in the back of surburban SUVs are similar. Would feel more mindful of those or a matt black mean as HQ with 'black power' tattooed across the rear window?
All, I am putting in an order tomorrow so we can get in prior to GST going up. If you want one of these send me a PM on here prior to 18:30 and I will add it to the list. After that the price will change to include the new GST. Cheers Brian
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