Carbon emission control efforts put in perspective

[peasea]

Well I just have to ask, whens "Global Warming" gonna start? I would like to ride in winter without my fingertips freezing.

Haha, so true. I can see snow from my window!

[Scuba_Steve]

Were does the money go from ETS tax? Anyone got a good link, explaining how the carbon credit trading works.In simple or should i say, simpleton language.

I dont know of a link but I did find a pic showing exactly where it goes in "simpleton language"

[avgas]

Were does the money go from ETS tax? Anyone got a good link, explaining how the carbon credit trading works.In simple or should i say, simpleton language.

I looked into it about 3 months ago, as I actually thought it was a good idea. What I saw changed my mind about.
Long story short - my initial findings found this.
1) If you Emmit you pay for the emissions to a govt agency
2) This govt agency trades with others on an international level (think stock market)
3) On this market people trade for a fictitious thing that govt are given according to emissions.

I put a letter of complaint in, stating this was not ETS but simply a trading scheme similar to that of Ponzi nature. Since then they have done many revamps - its not there yet, but its better. And if organized the money 'could' stay in NZ.

Updated site is here http://www.climatechange.govt.nz/emi...eme/index.html

Basically points 1 and 2 are the same, but then
3) Credits are sold to the market from traders who have measured units (e.g. forrestry)
4) Trading conducted on local and international markets.

[JimO]

No-one. I'm certainly not zero carbon but working towards reduction, in the context of the other issues that are around. I do grow a lot of my own food (organically, what's more), compost extensively, repair rather than replace, and generally live a minimal consumer life. My bike is probably the least green thing I have (apart from the kids ), and it does use less fossil energy than an SUV (although it's old,so probably a bit dirty emissions-wise). Anyway, with the way this recession is going I can't afford to WOF, register and ride it at the moment, so the impact is somewhat reduced.

im doing my bit i have 6 cars one a dirty old V8 and 2 motorbikes and a boat i might just go out and run the coon for a while, the planet could do with warming up