It's official - there are some heinous drivers out there

[Katman]

Yes, of course it is. That and the fact that motorcycles are dangerous and fall over. And isn't it great that finally the authorities are recognising that a hell of a lot of car drivers are incompetent? Maybe we will start seeing a break from the "deal with speeding and you deal with vehicle crashes" mentality.

I've never said "deal with speeding and you deal with vehicle crashes".

I've always said "deal with the grey matter that (hopefully) resides between the motorcyclists ears and you'll deal with motorcycle accidents".

[shrub]

I've never said "deal with speeding and you deal with vehicle crashes".

I've always said "deal with the grey matter that (hopefully) resides between the motorcyclists ears and you'll deal with motorcycle accidents".

Um, Katman, this isn't about you. This is about the authorities (which you're not).

[Katman]

That and the fact that motorcycles are dangerous and fall over.

No they're not.

My bike can sit there for hours on end and never fall over.

[bogan]

Yes, of course it is. That and the fact that motorcycles are dangerous and fall over. And isn't it great that finally the authorities are recognising that a hell of a lot of car drivers are incompetent? Maybe we will start seeing a break from the "deal with speeding and you deal with vehicle crashes" mentality.

can't wait for that day, but doesnt seem likely atm. You heard what they are doing to combat the (whatever holiday weekend this is) road toll? no excuses policy and ticketing for 4 kmhr over the limit, wonder how many accidents will be caused by drivers watching thier speedo too closely, or how many real issues police will miss while theyve pulled people over.

[shrub]

can't wait for that day, but doesnt seem likely atm. You heard what they are doing to combat the (whatever holiday weekend this is) road toll? no excuses policy and ticketing for 4 kmhr over the limit, wonder how many accidents will be caused by drivers watching thier speedo too closely, or how many real issues police will miss while theyve pulled people over.

4 kmh over the limit? I wondered when that would happen - all you need to do is look at the TV ads of the retard driving his Corolla to show that they were winding up to a lower tolerance tax take.

And in the meantime driver inattention and lack of skill are ignored.

[bogan]

4 kmh over the limit? I wondered when that would happen - all you need to do is look at the TV ads of the retard driving his Corolla to show that they were winding up to a lower tolerance tax take.

And in the meantime driver inattention and lack of skill are ignored.

exactly, that ad pisses me off as it highlights the bullshit message about speed, he was doing 60kmhr round a blind fucking corner (or if it wasn't blind it was lack of attention, funny how those ads never show the full corner init), it wasn't his doing 60kmhr on the straight that made him crash, but going too fast for the conditions. Incidentaly, going around a slightly sharper, slightly more blind corner at 50kmhr would have exactly the same fucking result, but now all the numpties will think it fine to do that cos the ads tell them it is.

[scumdog]

4 kmh over the limit? I wondered when that would happen - all you need to do is look at the TV ads of the retard driving his Corolla to show that they were winding up to a lower tolerance tax take.

And in the meantime driver inattention and lack of skill are ignored.

Meh, if he'd had that flash 'stbility control' shit he'd have been sweet but noooo, he had to drive a dunger...

[T.W.R]

You're clearly as retarded as that T.W.R. clown.

The biggest cause of motorcycle accidents is a combination of poor motorcyclists attitudes and poor motorcyclists hazard awareness skills.

As I said keep it up, arrogance is your master play. you delight in dishing out crap towards others yet when someone sets a play at you you're like a rat in a corner.
Speaks volumes in it's self really how you childishly start with the insults

Truth be known you probably couldn't ride a hot knife into butter let alone handle a bike properly.


Nothing retarded about calling you out, just the fact it got a retarded response or was it a taste of your actual intellect
Maybe you can't get your over indulged ego around the fact of putting your money where your mouth is, come on front up and get out in the big wide world and preach to the masses instead of spouting out loud here to a percentage of motorcyclists. get out from hiding behind your computer screen and show us what you're made of empty vessel

[Katman]

Blah, blah, blah.............,

[shrub]

exactly, that ad pisses me off as it highlights the bullshit message about speed, he was doing 60kmhr round a blind fucking corner (or if it wasn't blind it was lack of attention, funny how those ads never show the full corner init), it wasn't his doing 60kmhr on the straight that made him crash, but going too fast for the conditions. Incidentaly, going around a slightly sharper, slightly more blind corner at 50kmhr would have exactly the same fucking result, but now all the numpties will think it fine to do that cos the ads tell them it is.

He was also cutting the corner which is why he had to swerve to avoid a correctly parked car. he is an incompetent driver who isn't paying attention. His speed is a side issue, but Our Masters are softening us up to remove the 10kmh buffer

[BoristheBiter]

It gets complicted, cos of the legalities. Strictly, it's illegal to offer instruction for payment without an instructors endorsement. We did look at doing it for free , but there are expenses which we couldn't cover. And the training at RRRS isn't according to the NZTA syllabus (or whatever they use ). I think one of the 'instructors' is ex MoT. But that's one man. For the whole country.

It's also not easy to find people who have the necessary experience and are good at instructing. Bearing in mind, what we are talking about is not "what the road code says " stuff, nor is it "how to go round corners really fast" either. .

Have you been in contact with thet lady from the NS council. Lisa somebody I think.
She was asking about recommendations after my complaints about the training day at Hampton Downs.
I think i have her email around somewhere, you could always get on to her in the Bronze role and see if you can really sort out proper training for riders both new and experinced. it has to start somewhere, like a defensive course just for bikes and not like the one fits all there is at the moment.
I know its complicated when dealing with govt department, When i was with the NZDA some of our subs went to funding lobbyists and even that was hard work.

[BoristheBiter]

He was also cutting the corner which is why he had to swerve to avoid a correctly parked car. he is an incompetent driver who isn't paying attention. His speed is a side issue, but Our Masters are softening us up to remove the 10kmh buffer

Don't forget the dick that just opens his door without looking while parking his car on the bend.

[T.W.R]

mature response & a good indication of how hollow you really are

And you don't need to indulge us in your favourite pastime

[T.W.R]

but Our Masters are softening us up to remove the 10kmh buffer

That's been gone for quite a while now

[shrub]

That's been gone for quite a while now

I don't think so - they were talking to a woman from the Police this morning on the National Programme and she said that we still had it, although I think ultimately it is up to the discretion of the tax collector concerned. Sean Plunkett asked her if it was a lead up to removing the 10 kmh buffer and she was very evasive. He also asked if it was going to cause people to spend all their time watching their speedos, and she said that would not be a problem because people would be driving much more carefully. Personally I think "driving carefully" and "staring at my speedo" are two very different things, and I for one will be avoiding the roads this weekend in cage or bike because I really don't want to get pinged for 54 kmh whenI go and get the milk and I don't want to be hit by someone who is watching his speedo and not me.