Tickets for 4km/h over the speed limit this Queens Birthday weekend

**Smifffy** · 2nd June 2010, 15:23

I think it's fair enough, either the limit is 50, 70, 100 or whatever. Or it isn't. My prediction for the long weekend if this is enforced as advertised:

Road toll: No Change
Respect for POPO: Measurable reduction
POPO press release: Unprecedented success

When middle NZ who haven't had a ticket in years start getting em for 4 and 5 km over, I don't think they'll be happy. Particularly when they are more than likely to have had an unpleasant brush with a boy racer or two on the same trip. Maybe everybody should stay home and work this weekend - like me

Howzabout a blitz on unpaid fines?

**Mudfart** · 2nd June 2010, 15:27

go judith collins, your making a positive difference and improving everyones lives.
not, gtfo of parliament. at the very least, you make enough money to get your upper lip waxed.

**miloking** · 2nd June 2010, 15:40

Originally Posted by Mudfart

go judith collins, your making a positive difference and improving everyones lives.
not, gtfo of parliament. at the very least, you make enough money to get your upper lip waxed.

I knew i shouldnt have written her that email regarding the road toll two weeks ago...look what 'ive done....

**p.dath** · 2nd June 2010, 15:47

My personal guess is the weather will have a bigger impact than any marginal speed reduction. Especially when you consider the average speed is already below 100km/h thanks to most modern speedo's having a deliberate 6% error at 100km/h.

**blackdog** · 2nd June 2010, 15:50

Originally Posted by imdying

If you're running the stock gearing, then it'll be high, so you're fine. If you're not running the stock gearing, then that's a problem of your own making and you should fit a healer to calibrate it.

for WOF/compliance purposes a speedo is only required to be accurate within +/- 10%!

**Hiflyer** · 2nd June 2010, 15:59

Yay can't wait to pay for a meaningless ticket. I'd kick up a stink about this, usually don't if I'm speeding knowingly cos that just comes wit the speed. This is bullshit though.

Not only for bikes but car drivers as well.

**Bassmatt** · 2nd June 2010, 16:22

Originally Posted by theblackstig

for WOF/compliance purposes a speedo is only required to be accurate within +/- 10%!

Ive been through this with Kawasaki NZ, LTSA, and Consumer. There are NO parameters for speedo accuracy in NZ as long as it reads under your actual speed. Kawasaki NZ were not interested in doing anything about a speedo on my wifes brand new bike unless it read less than 86km/h while traveling at 100km/hr. Wankers.

**Katman** · 2nd June 2010, 16:29

The only thing the WOF manual says about the operation of the speedo is that it must work as intended.

It doesn't say anything about the degree of accuracy required at all.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 2nd June 2010, 16:35

Originally Posted by Smifffy

I think it's fair enough, either the limit is 50, 70, 100 or whatever. Or it isn't. My prediction for the long weekend if this is enforced as advertised:

Road toll: No Change
Respect for POPO: Measurable reduction
POPO press release: Unprecedented success

When middle NZ who haven't had a ticket in years start getting em for 4 and 5 km over, I don't think they'll be happy. Particularly when they are more than likely to have had an unpleasant brush with a boy racer or two on the same trip. Maybe everybody should stay home and work this weekend - like me

Howzabout a blitz on unpaid fines?

My business partner got a ticket for 62kph (in a 50): its a 4 lane 50 with no side streets and the de facto speed limit is in fact 60 (it becomes 60 a bit further up the road). If ever there was a definition of a revenue collection ticket, this was it: and it has made a National voting, upper middle aged, white male pillar of the community and respected professional person openly say stuff like "Bah humbug, pure revenue collection" "what road safety imperative was served?" "all they want is money" "why arent they chasing real criminals" "What about the boy racer scumbags that drive around the streets" etc etc. He was (and the crucial point) remains bitter and angry.

He even didnt argue that forcefully with my often stated theory that "Speed is not dangerous, but sudden unexpected stops are".

**miloking** · 2nd June 2010, 16:38

Originally Posted by Katman

The only thing the WOF manual says about the operation of the speedo is that it must work as intended.

It doesn't say anything about the degree of accuracy required at all.

Did your dumbas bosses realize (before announcing this farce) that difference between new and worn tyres on some vehicles can contribute to up to 2% difference in speedo reading??? Not to mention that there is chance that local tyre shop might have put larger tyre on your car without you neccesarily knowing when you decided to get new set???

*rhetorical question...i know they didnt because they want people to get caught*

**ckai** · 2nd June 2010, 16:42

I can just see all the cops sitting at the bottom of hills. EASY ticket. Can you imagine everyone going down hills starring at their speedo's? Brake lights blaring? Noes to tails?

I actually reckon they just want to make their quota for the next couple of weeks in one weekend, so they can go to Tahiti for their conference and still maintain their yearly quota. Clever thinking really.

The only way the cops will not do this in the future is if more accidents happen. If it's the same or less. VICTORY!! (Even though it will be a bloody miracle)

**firefighter** · 2nd June 2010, 16:50

Originally Posted by ckai

I actually reckon they just want to make their quota for the next couple of weeks in one weekend

This is from the top.

The ones enforcing this tripe will enjoy it about as much as you and me........

**imdying** · 2nd June 2010, 16:52

Originally Posted by firefighter

Good luck passing the guy that speeds up when you go to pass him now.......

Dude, you have GSXR750, he could put his foot flat and you'd still pass him with one hand scratching your behind!

Originally Posted by theblackstig

for WOF/compliance purposes a speedo is only required to be accurate within +/- 10%!

AFAIK not for WOFs; it's not in the vehicle inspection manual at least! Wouldn't be surprised for diesels though, as that's a tax issue.

Originally Posted by Bassmatt

Ive been through this with Kawasaki NZ, LTSA, and Consumer. There are NO parameters for speedo accuracy in NZ as long as it reads under your actual speed. Kawasaki NZ were not interested in doing anything about a speedo on my wifes brand new bike unless it read less than 86km/h while traveling at 100km/hr. Wankers.

Well there you go then.

**blackdog** · 2nd June 2010, 16:54

Originally Posted by Katman

The only thing the WOF manual says about the operation of the speedo is that it must work as intended.

It doesn't say anything about the degree of accuracy required at all.

hmm, must be oz then.

For a car, the international standards allow a speedometer to be higher by as much as 14km/h at 100km/h – which means your car is doing 86km/h when your speedo is showing 100km/h. For a motorcycle, 84km/h actual speed is allowed to read as 100km/h on the speedo.

source: http://www.consumer.org.nz/news/view...meter-accuracy