The police and their 104k/h sucks. Therefore I decided to...

**Conquiztador** · 5th June 2010, 00:46

Just as an option. Really. I am not stirring. Would I ever???

**Conquiztador** · 5th June 2010, 00:52

Really need to get a PA.

**quickbuck** · 5th June 2010, 01:46

There is just more cages out there to overtake this weekend.... So, for me nothing really will change in the way I ride.

As per normal I will ride on roads where there is little traffic, and therefore a lack of Police Presence.
Don't tend to get over 100 on the best roads.... Which leads right into the point that it isn't the speed limit that is a problem, it is traveling to the conditions. SO, why ping people for a lower number if the conditions are okay.... why not put more emphasis on people who aren't driving to the conditions.... THIS includes the vehicles who travel for many kilometres at a reduced speed with a huge line of traffic behind them!!!

Rant over.

**mrchips** · 5th June 2010, 07:14

My speedo is out by 5 - 10 km/h at times, so 104 km/h is going to be interesting.

I don't condone speeding on public roads but with the varying speed limits 'these days' i'm finding my eyes spend more time ogling my speedo than whats going on in front of me (car & bike).

The Police should be ticketing the slow drivers breaking the law & speeding up during passing lanes. Passing these dicklets within the speed limit is impossible !.

From the road code....

Passing lanes

When there are passing lanes, drive in the left-hand lane unless you are passing another vehicle.

If you've been driving slower than the speed limit, don't speed up when you reach a passing lane if other vehicles are following – give them the opportunity to pass you safely

**Tink** · 5th June 2010, 07:19

Originally Posted by mrchips

My speedo is out by 5 - 10 km/h at times, so 104 km/h is going to be interesting.

I don't condone speeding on public roads but with the varying speed limits 'these days' i'm finding my eyes spend more time ogling my speedo than whats going on in front of me (car & bike).

The Police should be ticketing the slow drivers breaking the law & speeding up during passing lanes. Passing these dicklets within the speed limit is impossible !.

From the road code....

Just out of interest does it also say in the road code, drive to the left on the motorway unless passing.... I get sick of people driving 100km in what they think is "the fast lane" when in FACT its the "overtaking lane". And they sit there and sit there, and don't pull out in front of a truck... CAUSE ITS LIKE GETTING a bullet up your butt... they have less breaking power than a smaller vehicle. I once nearly plowed into the back of a car that did this, I hope they shit themselves and considered that its better to be behind a slow vehicle for 5 min, than have one hit them. MY RANT OVER!

**schrodingers cat** · 5th June 2010, 08:36

Pretty hard to overtake someone doing 100km/h(esp on a 'overtaking' lane) when you're allowed a maximum of 104km/h

Whatever happened to the Peter Brock idea (remember the TV ad) - "Get a run up" he said

Seriously, there needs to be campaign that says 'GET OUT OF THE FUCKING WAY'. If someone is uncomfortabe at open road speeds they need to know they have an obligation to not hinder anyone elses progress

**CookMySock** · 5th June 2010, 08:40

They just want us to be really careful on public holidays. It's fair enough.

Steve

**Tank** · 5th June 2010, 09:10

So they dont care about us being really carefull at other times?

Would you waaaaaaa like a bitch if you got a ticket for 104km on a nice open bit of road ? What am i saying of course you would.

**Tank** · 5th June 2010, 09:12

Anyway - to answer the OP - the police 104km ticketing sucks - so therefor I decided not to go faster than 103 on my way home last night. Of course - its 50km all the way - but fuckem.

**FJRider** · 5th June 2010, 09:18

Originally Posted by mrchips

From the road code....

Most people have never looked in the road code since the day they got their licence ....

**FJRider** · 5th June 2010, 09:19

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

They just want us to be really careful on public holidays. It's fair enough.

Steve

I think you will find the 104 limit will continue after the weekend ...

**Conquiztador** · 5th June 2010, 09:28

Originally Posted by FJRider

I think you will find the 104 limit will continue after the weekend ...

Not initially. The plan is to evaluate the result and figure out if this idea helped. So if there is a reduction in accidents then this will be considered again.

**mrchips** · 5th June 2010, 09:41

Originally Posted by FJRider

I think you will find the 104 limit will continue after the weekend ...

Yes. Because we all know speed & big CC's kill, not...... alcohol, drugs, inexperience, driver training (the lack of), attitude etc, etc

I only hope we see some affordable driver / rider training incentives with all the extra ACC we will be paying.

**Conquiztador** · 5th June 2010, 10:02

Originally Posted by mrchips

Yes. Because we all know speed & big CC's kill, not...... alcohol, drugs, inexperience, driver training (the lack of), attitude etc, etc

I only hope we see some affordable driver / rider training incentives with all the extra ACC we will be paying.

Dont be silly now. The two main reasons are speed and alcohol. That is the reason the $$'s have been spent to come up with accurate measuring devices to focus on these two. Now once the decision is made to make the alcohol level ZERO they can really make a difference!

**flyingcrocodile46** · 5th June 2010, 10:12

Originally Posted by quickbuck

There is just more cages out there to overtake this weekend.... So, for me nothing really will change in the way I ride.

As per normal I will ride on roads where there is little traffic, and therefore a lack of Police Presence.
Don't tend to get over 100 on the best roads.... Which leads right into the point that it isn't the speed limit that is a problem, it is traveling to the conditions. SO, why ping people for a lower number if the conditions are okay.... why not put more emphasis on people who aren't driving to the conditions.... THIS includes the vehicles who travel for many kilometres at a reduced speed with a huge line of traffic behind them!!!

Rant over.

Exactly. The whole reason we have traffic laws and speed restrictions is all for SAFETY. That is the underlying reason for which all traffic enforcement officers are employed.

An 80 year old behind the wheel of an old Mk2 Zephyr with cross ply tyres on the old 309 road in teh coromandel doing 70kph is a shitload more risk to the safety of himself and others than a Peter Brock in the latest model Holden commode doing 140kph at 3:00am on the motorway. Yet you will often see Peter getting his ticket but seldom (if ever) see the old maniac in the Zephyr get his.

The conditions/circumstances for which rules/laws are drafted are wide an vary greatly. When drafting laws/rules invariably they are framed to cater for worst scenario rather than the best (as it is either impossible or completely impractical to make fair rules for all circumstances). The intent of law makers is to provide guidance for the exercise of common sense and penalties for those who don't exercise common sense. It has always been the intent that those enforcing the law are to use their judgment and discretion and to apply the maximum penalty applicable to the offense in cases of the worst scenario and lesser penalty (or warning) to the milder rule/law breaches. Fines were intended as a penalty, not a fucking income stream.

My dad had a saying.... ''Rules are written for the guidance of wise men and for the blind obedience of fools'' (this assumes that those enforcing the rules are the wise men and that those on the receiving end are the fools). It seems that this scenario is ever less in evidence, as it is rare indeed to meet an intelligent traffic cop, particularly as they seem to be completely lacking the ability to exercise any common sense and discretion on their own right..... (I'm just doing my job)

. Fucking spineless morons don't even get the basic principle that they are there to police... how often are they killing and/or maiming people with their unsafe actions when pursuing someone for a fucking silly little traffic offense.