Dear Mr English, I don't want a tax cut

[shrub]

Dear Mr. English, I know you're planning to give me a tax cut in the budget, but I don't really want it and certainly don't need it. Instead of an extra $30 - $40 a week in my pocket, which I'll only spend, what I want is:

To know that if I get sick or injured that there is a well equipped hospital waiting for me, and that I won't find a massive bill when I leave

To know that my kids can go to a well resourced school with great teachers who are well trained and well rewarded.

To know that if I call the cops they'll treat my problem as a priority, and won't be parked on the side of the road taking photos of people doing 112 kmh.

To know my daughter can walk to the bus stop safely.

To know that when the guy up the road is out of work that he is given enough money to enable him to live in dignity, and maybe not feel tempted by my open bathroom window. And I want to know that his case worker is actually on his case, not snowed under and under resourced.

To know that the woman up the road bringing up her kids on her own is able to feed and clothe them in a way that doesn't bring shame on her and on them.

To know that if the country ever needs them, whether in war or crisis, that our service personelle are well equipped and trained for the task ahead of them.

To ride my motorcycle on clean, well maintained roads.

To live in a country that rewards clever and hard working people, not just people who own stuff.

Mr. English, if I want an extra few dollars, I'll go and earn it because I have control over that, so don't try and make me happy by giving me something I can get for myself. Give me the things I need that I can't get for myself and I might just ask you to come back in 2011.

Yours, a voter.

[Mully]

Good points, but a little naive if you think those are the alternatives.

I used to think NZ could be like Denmark - fantastic public services (hospitals and the like) but enormous taxes.

I've since come to the conclusion that NZ politicians (of any colour) are so inept, that it'll make no difference. Therefore, I might as well take the money and buy health insurance & burglar alarms to protect me and mine.

(BTW, why shouldn't "clever and hard working" people be rewarded by getting to keep more of the fruits of their labour?)

[Headbanger]

Fuckers are welcome to cut back on the gravy trains and get their thieving fucking hands off my fucking money.

[shrub]

(BTW, why shouldn't "clever and hard working" people be rewarded by getting to keep more of the fruits of their labour?)

As a clever and hard working person, I'm more interested in finding new ways to earn more and having the infrastructure that rewards entrepreneurialism and creativity than to get a few cents an hour extra in tax (that will go straight away in GST).

[aprilia_RS250]

You spending an extra 30-40 a week is much more effective when it ends up in private business hands vs govt coffers.

All of the stuff you have listed can be supplied to you in much greater and better quantities even if the tax rate has been reduced, it's just that governments are immensely inneffiecient and contain huge admin costs.

You should start a club with Sam Morgan
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...lls-on-workers

[shrub]

You spending an extra 30-40 a week is much more effective when it ends up in private business hands vs govt coffers.

All of the stuff you have listed can be supplied to you in much greater and better quantities even if the tax rate has been reduced, it's just that governments are immensely inneffiecient and contain huge admin costs.

You should start a club with Sam Morgan
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...lls-on-workers

Maybe I should - he's smart and rich.

It is a myth that private business is more efficient than government, but one that Act works hard to promulgate and one that will have us all paying even more for ACC. Modern government is surprisingly efficient and well run, and is pretty well a match for the private sector. The big difference is that in government there is no requirement to produce a profit for the owners (increasingly offshore entities) because we are the owners therefore state supplied goods and services can be offered at a lower cost than the private sector.

[MisterD]

A question for you: Which of these is likely to be the most efficiently spent money?

a) Someone spending another person's money on A.N.Other.
b) Someone spending another person's money on themselves.
c) Someone spending their own money on A.N.Other
d) Someone spending their own money on themselves.

The UK Labour party have just provided a 13 year demonstration that hosepiping other peoples money at stuff doesn't actually do anything to fix a problem.

Simple really. Gimme the tax cut Bill.

[Mully]

Great thread.

This'll be a good one.

[Swoop]

It is a myth that private business is more efficient than government,... Modern government is surprisingly efficient and well run...

Buahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!


*gasp*


Buahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!

[Tank]

Dear Mr English,

Im smart and clever - I earn good money - and I suppose I dont really need a Tax cut.

But fuck it - Im really looking forward to the one that is coming my way.

Its great to have a g'ment that is smart enough to make changes and gets away from the loony lefts idea of borrow, borrow, borrow spend, spend, spend and pandering to the bottom 5% of New Zealand.

Im putting my tax cut towards a nice holiday in Samoan beach resort.

[aprilia_RS250]

You forgot that private companies compete for business. Because they compete things such as price wars, product differentiation and extra services must be provided by a market determined price. Hence you get a better product from a private business vs a government one. A clear example is Kiwibank, they charge similar to market rates but you still get a shit service.

[Marmoot]

Instead of an extra $30 - $40 a week in my pocket, which I'll only spend, what I want is:...

52 x $30-$40 = $1560 - $2080
And you want all those for that amount?
Damn....that's cheap.

[Quasievil]

Dear Mr English, please give me a massive TAX CUT

Take whats needed for roads and essential Infrastructure, as for the rest give it to me I will take care of myself privately.

You see Mr English, history proves to me the the government cant run a health system a education system or any system well so frankly GET THE FUCK OUT OF IT
Im intelligent and can take care of my own needs in this regard, you stick to the basics , roads police and err well thats about it

Oh and for the people on the Dole, if they cant support themselves via their own families to fucken bad Im done supporting every lazy fucker in this country

[Tank]

Mr Key today:

"If you are talking about can there be tax cuts at the top end, in my view the answer to that has to be yes. The reason for that is you need the people that are paying the top tax rate to stay in your economy. Whether they are your doctors, your entrepreneurs or your scientists - I mean we can be envious about these things but without those people in our economy all the rest of us will either have less people paying tax or fundamentally less services that they provide."


if the left had its way - we would be rid of the rich pricks (we will tax 'em out of the country) - and then it will be a beautiful socialist paradise with no evil businessmen (capital bastards all of em).

Of course they forget - that only leave the 'poor' to fund the roads, hospitals, working for families etc - and so it becomes a downward spiral. Of course they forget all about that - and simply expect the government to borrow more money.

[mashman]

Mr Key today:

"If you are talking about can there be tax cuts at the top end, in my view the answer to that has to be yes. The reason for that is you need the people that are paying the top tax rate to stay in your economy. Whether they are your doctors, your entrepreneurs or your scientists - I mean we can be envious about these things but without those people in our economy all the rest of us will either have less people paying tax or fundamentally less services that they provide."


if the left had its way - we would be rid of the rich pricks (we will tax 'em out of the country) - and then it will be a beautiful socialist paradise with no evil businessmen (capital bastards all of em).

Of course they forget - that only leave the 'poor' to fund the roads, hospitals, working for families etc - and so it becomes a downward spiral. Of course they forget all about that - and simply expect the government to borrow more money.

"This would give someone on $50,000 an extra $20 a week in the hand but when the GST rise is included, it reduces to $6."

ooooo i can hear the till bells ringin now... Most of these rich folk don't need tax cuts BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY ANY FUCKIN TAX... and the above quote from Donkey illustrates what the "masses" believe to be true... Get the fuckers out that are hoarding the money, because they spend most of it overseas because there's fuck all to buy here...